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06-08-2019 , 11:27 AM
Villain is MAWG fish VPIPing 50% or more. Stack is now $800. He's not accustomed to playing this deep.

Hero is YWG with winning image. Stack is now $1200.

Hero opens 55 UTG+1 to $15. Villain calls BTN, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: T 3 3 (pot= $60)

Check, check, Hero bets $35 for protection, V calls, blinds both fold.

Turn: T 3 3 A (pot = $130)

Hero bets $65, V calls.

River: T 3 3 A 4 (pot=$260)

Hero bets $150.

Is this a spot where it's okay to overbluff with all my small PPs? I figure that most 1/2 players will put us on Ace King when we cbet this board, and we can get a lot of credit when we take this line.

Last edited by aisrael01; 06-08-2019 at 11:44 AM.
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06-08-2019 , 12:00 PM
I'm not sure about the flop bet, seems like a way ahead/way behind scenario and only makes sense if you're planning on bluffing future streets.

As played I like continuing on the turn and river as the A hits your UTG+1 opening range much harder than it hits V's range. I can see him folding a ton of T's and it's hard for him to have anything strong. It's likely he'd raise a 3 by the turn if he had it.
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06-08-2019 , 12:06 PM
Villain has so many aces in his range that I think you have to give it up. There are zero draws on the board. He wasn't afraid of your C-bet, and he wasn't afraid of the ace on the turn. I don't see how you're getting a fold on the river.
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06-08-2019 , 12:24 PM
Yeah I don't expect a 50% VPIP player to fold this River. But I like your stab at the turn under most circumstances, but in this case the V is on the BTN and could have almost any Ax.

I'm checking this river as there are really no obvious busted draws.
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06-08-2019 , 12:27 PM
I think flop is a check vs. 3 others.

AP, I think firing that turn is okay since it’s a scary card that hits your range solidly (I assume anyway, you haven’t provided a whole lot of info on images or reads).

After V calls the turn I’m done with the hand. There are no obvious draws out there so I don’t really understand what hands V calls the flop and turn bets but then folds river. Can you give us a range for V on river and then tell us which of those hands you think he folds to the bet? it can’t be a lot if any.
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06-08-2019 , 01:53 PM
I think his range on the river is roughly {TT,32s-36s,A3,K3s,Q3s, AT-8T, T7s,T6s, AJ+}. I think he gives his A9-A4, A2 up on the flop. I think most of his Tx will stick around after the turn bet, but I'm really not sure.

My goal with the river bet was to get V to give up his Tx and maybe AJ.

Would it have been a better line to bomb turn for like 120 and then just give up river?
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06-08-2019 , 03:37 PM
Flop is a snap check, you’re leaking a lot of money by cbetting this wide 4 way

Turn is meh, im indifferent to it

River bluff is fine ap
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06-08-2019 , 05:48 PM
Thanks for the feedback. Consensus seems to be that flop bet may have been a bit loose. I'd assumed this would get folds >66% of the time OTF to show a profit, but I'll need to check the math.

Results: Villain called and said "I guess you've got Tens full" and showed 83s. Way wider than I'd assumed.

An hour later I got my revenge: I called a CO open in the BTN with 66 and Villain completed in the BB. Flop: Q86r. CO cbet $56. As I was contemplating my options, V announced "raise to 200" from the Blind, not realizing that I held cards. I called floor to verify whether Vs action stood. It did. I called. V raised and CO folded. I moved in for $1100, covering V. He hemmed and hawed and eventually flicked a chip in, showing Q8o. I gii for a 1000bb pot with bottom set against top two. I held. Biggest pot I've ever won at this limit.
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06-08-2019 , 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by aisrael01
Thanks for the feedback. Consensus seems to be that flop bet may have been a bit loose. I'd assumed this would get folds >66% of the time OTF to show a profit, but I'll need to check the math.

Results: Villain called and said "I guess you've got Tens full" and showed 83s. Way wider than I'd assumed.

An hour later I got my revenge: I called a CO open in the BTN with 66 and Villain completed in the BB. Flop: Q86r. CO cbet $56. As I was contemplating my options, V announced "raise to 200" from the Blind, not realizing that I held cards. I called floor to verify whether Vs action stood. It did. I called. V raised and CO folded. I moved in for $1100, covering V. He hemmed and hawed and eventually flicked a chip in, showing Q8o. I gii for a 1000bb pot with bottom set against top two. I held. Biggest pot I've ever won at this limit.
Sick hand haha. Of course it helped he saw you show down a triple barrel bluff 5-way earlier in the session, but I don't know if he ever folds top two there even if you had a clean image. Nice revenge though

But yeah, if a triple barrel is around breakeven, you should usually lean towards just firing off since it helps you get paid off in spots like these & does good for metagame purposes/image. Just play more value heavy after showing a huge bluff or two like this, and rake the money in LOL.
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