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01-02-2016 , 11:07 AM
V1 (260): 40's Asian guy, playing near 100% of hands even to a raise. 2 hands w/ Hero in since he sat down 30 mins ago. Hand 1: Hero raises pre and only V1 calls. V1 calls Hero's c-bed w/ Q3o OOP on a 1096r board, spikes a Q on the turn, check,check, river is A, check, check. V1 beats Hero's J9s. Hand 2: V1 limps from UTG, 2 other limpers, Hero calls on button w/ K3s. 5 to flop, flop 932r. Checks to hero, Hero bets 10, only V1 calls. Turn is 9r, V1 checks, hero bets 13, V1 calls. River 9, V1 leads for 50 (pot is 45), Hero tank folds and V1 smiles and shows 108o.

V2 (300): 30ish white guy, sat down about 15 minutes ago and saw Hand 2 and seems a bit determined to get V1. Seems on the tighter side.

Hero (275): 30ish white guy, has been most aggressive player at table preflop and c-betting but there are 3-4 complete nits, so that's not saying much. Have won pots mostly w/o showdown.

Pre-flop: V2 limps from EP, Hero raises to 10 w/ AQ, V1 calls on button, V2 calls.

Flop (30) 10J3 V2 checks, Hero checks, V1 bets 7, V2 folds, Hero calls.

Turn (43) K Hero?
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01-02-2016 , 11:39 AM
Bet 40. This guy doesn't like to fold.
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01-02-2016 , 11:49 AM
Since he calls everything, bet. Probably half pot to PSB, so $20-40.

But, two things: a station like this to your left can be frustrating, partly bc he calls everything, and everyone else gets a better price to draw against you. Consider seat change.
And, if he is calling everything, size your open raises bigger. AQs is likely to be very far ahead of his range, so charge him. Experiment with raising to $15 or $20. See if he'll call when you raise to $30. Esp after you get position on him.
If he's calling close to 100% pre flop, ISO raise big and destroy his stack with TPGK hands.
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01-02-2016 , 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Dutchstreetfish
And, if he is calling everything, size your open raises bigger. AQs is likely to be very far ahead of his range, so charge him. Experiment with raising to $15 or $20. See if he'll call when you raise to $30. Esp after you get position on him.
If he's calling close to 100% pre flop, ISO raise big and destroy his stack with TPGK hands.
+1

Consider taking the same line as hand two, where you (snap) check the turn and allow him to bomb river, but i probs would need more reads on V, like whether he understands SDV or is just range merging every hand.

As a default though, probably betting 70-80, depending on how inelastic we've seen V get with pairs. this V is never folding a queen or diamonds (maybe even an ace) here so i like making it huge.
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01-02-2016 , 01:24 PM
Raise bigger pre and then cbet the flop. V1 will apparently call with anything and since V2 is on the tighter side, if he misses the flop (which is likely) he'll fold and you'll be HU with the fish.

AP, bet as big as you think he'll reasonably call. I saw a small overbet of $45ish
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01-02-2016 , 02:57 PM
I'm going for a check-raise here. Only way to get it all, as SPR too high. If he makes a stronger bet at the turn (say > 1/2 pot), might CRAI for value, to look like I picked up a flush draw.

If he checks behind, betting $75 on any river.
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01-02-2016 , 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by KKingDavid
I'm going for a check-raise here. Only way to get it all, as SPR too high. If he makes a stronger bet at the turn (say > 1/2 pot), might CRAI for value, to look like I picked up a flush draw.

If he checks behind, betting $75 on any river.
I like a c/r here and think we'll have the opportunity a good amount of the time too, because, according to the description, he can bluff at what he thinks are scare cards. However, I think the chance it checks through is just too high and given the fact that V will call all day with garbage, it makes me wanna bet and avoid missing value.

Yes, a c/r is probably the only way we get stacks in. But I think he calls much wider than he bets. And since he can float, with his bluffing range he won't be calling a check/raise as often as he does a bet.

And hey, if the river is a diamond I might go for a check raise there because I feel he'd bluff at it. Might also do this if river brings 4 to a straight
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01-02-2016 , 05:07 PM
Bet 50. Make it look bluffy. I don't think you'll get a chance to x/r given how passive he played the HH where he spiked the Q and even an idiot knows a x/r is a strong move.

Edit: I also cbet 15 on this flop to maintain my initiative in the hand.
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01-02-2016 , 05:23 PM
Never ever checking this turn to V. A lead for about $30 should do the trick, maybe even slightly larger.
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01-02-2016 , 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Suess
I like a c/r here and think we'll have the opportunity a good amount of the time too, because, according to the description, he can bluff at what he thinks are scare cards. However, I think the chance it checks through is just too high and given the fact that V will call all day with garbage, it makes me wanna bet and avoid missing value.



Yes, a c/r is probably the only way we get stacks in. But I think he calls much wider than he bets. And since he can float, with his bluffing range he won't be calling a check/raise as often as he does a bet.



And hey, if the river is a diamond I might go for a check raise there because I feel he'd bluff at it. Might also do this if river brings 4 to a straight

All depends on which of the following questions hero is asking:

Q1: how much of V's stack can I win here?

Q2: how can I win all of V's stack here?

I'm going for #2.
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01-02-2016 , 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by KKingDavid
All depends on which of the following questions hero is asking:

Q1: how much of V's stack can I win here?

Q2: how can I win all of V's stack here?

I'm going for #2.
Fair enough. I love the "go big or go home" approach. Just not sure if this is the right spot for it. For me it'd probably defend on the feeling I get while at the table.
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01-02-2016 , 08:58 PM
Playing for stacks with a cr is good but I don't think he bets this turn much, since you obv have AK and his weak flop bet is just lol.

I like an overbet to 55 OTT then pot (shove) for 180+- OTR vs stations.
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01-02-2016 , 09:07 PM
Bet the flop FFS, you pretty much have the nuts. $25 flop. As played $55 turn and shove all rivers. If he has air or garbage there's nothing you can do about that. I want the whole stack.
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