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1/2 Tricky Turn Decision 1/2 Tricky Turn Decision

02-03-2018 , 03:11 PM
1/2 at local casino. Effective stacks ~250
Hero is young, been opening and cbetting a lot bc the table was filled with a bunch of nit-limp-folders. V is older, one of the few competent players at the table.
Fold to Hero in CO, opens to 10 with 5s7s
V calls on BTN.

Flop(23)
3s 7h Qd
H check (which was very rare since I was consistently cbetting)
V bets 20, I call
Turn(63)
9s
H check, V bets 40
H?

I have a lot of equity, do i just call here? Can I bluff a brick river? What about a c/r?
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02-03-2018 , 04:07 PM
If you choose to c/r you're going to have to follow up with a large river bet if called. I think a call is better. If villain has a queen he's likely to pay off a 5/7 but I think it's hard enough to realize equity that folding isn't terrible. This spot would be much more profitable if you were the aggressor up to this point.
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02-03-2018 , 06:57 PM
Interesting hand and tricky spot.

With nobody to isolate and the only competent player acting behind us I probably just pitch this pre unless the blinds are consistently defending and x/f the flop.

Flop I probably default to a c-bet. You’re obviously never folding better but you can still called by some worse 66-44. You deny equity to his overcards and can also get value from some floats that have BDSD and BDFD potential with blockers to Qx (hands like KJs, ATs, JTs etc.). If I did c-bet the flop I would double barrel the turn.

As played, you could get away with a trickily played 77, 33 or Q9 or a turn bink with 99/97 if you decide to raise here. It’s pretty difficult for him to hero call a hand like KJ or QJ here if you x/jam. And you should still have 30% equity when called.

Very nice if not unorthodox hand if you x/jammed and he folded. It’s an unusual line but I can get behind a x/stuff
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02-03-2018 , 07:25 PM
I'm fine with the hand to this point. I think check call and checkraise are both fine. I'd probably opt for check call given his flop sizing, which looks to me like he liked his hand.
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02-03-2018 , 10:17 PM
Result:
I x/jammed and V instacalled with AA
I am still wondering if this was a good play and I just ran into it or was I punting? Any overpair or two pair is calling so this move was for top pair only. Was it because of all my previous play of opening wide and cbetting that V decided to flat AA? I was winning a bunch of small pots with no showdown but if I'm going to get trapped like this should I slow it down even if successful? I x/jammed bc I didn't know if i could call and then bluff a brick river bc there is little I can represent. At the time I thought V's turn bet was pot sized so I was not getting the odds to x/c, but I actually was, correct?
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02-04-2018 , 06:50 AM
I prefer a call on the turn mainly hoping to hit a well-disguised 2-pair, trips or flush which with our image has a good chance of getting us paid for stacks (good implied odds). I'm probably leading if we hit rather than going for the check/raise.

For the same reason, I'm not bluffing on the river when we miss (which will happen most of the time). Villain's flop and turn bets suggest he has a made hand and he is likely to look us up.

Last edited by Nogyong; 02-04-2018 at 06:55 AM.
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02-04-2018 , 07:52 AM
Bet sizing is an underrated tell at LLSNL imo. I weight villain's $20 on the flop pretty heavily when evaluating the hand. If he wanted to bluff he'd just throw down $15 or $16, there's no reason to go to $20 except simple greed. He wants hot values and thinks (maybe correctly) that you won't notice the large bet size.
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