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Originally Posted by Amanaplan
His behavior doesn't matter. This will probably be your worst call down hand. Don't bluff it, don't fold it facing a small bet.
You don't give any weight towards live players body language at all?
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Originally Posted by Shai Hulud
This is a spot where it's important to have some idea of villain's raising vs. limping range. Is he capable of raising 22-66 and SCs in EP? Some players are, most aren't. If he's incapable of raising those hands, he never has a set here (unless he luckboxed 88 OTT). There's 1 combos of QQ he could have.
If he's capable of raising smaller pocket pairs and SCs I think you're crushed. Otherwise there's not much he can have here. Exactly 1 combo QQ and 3 combos 88 make sorta-sense here.
The tiny river bet is odd. It might be a blocking bet with like KQ. Could be A5s that he just C-bet and then bet again when he picked up a gutshot. I can't see any other likely straights if he's the type to limp SCs. I'm definitely calling here if your ranges are even close to correct.
It was fairly early in my session, only a couple of orbits had passed and he played a couple other hands. Raised one, called a raise in another. My first impression of him was he's a tourney rec/reg starting out.
The ranges I gave him may be a tad wide with the SC's, but I think they are fairly close. I do not think he's the type to raise with small PP UTG.
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Originally Posted by venice10
MAWG generally don't raise pf with SC in the UTG without a read. Is the villain often entering the pot with a raise? If he is typical, he's not raising without a monster, QQ+, AK.
If so, I'm going to guess he has KK. He bet hard on the flop and turn to make a draw pay, then slowed down because he's worried about some two pair or set.
The hand plays itself from the flop onward. The only question is whether the initial call pf was correct. If you believe he'd raise KTs pf in the UTG position, it was a good call. Otherwise, the mistake in the hand is calling pf.
Im curious with your comment about preflop possibly being a mistake, as preflop is an area im trying to focus more on because its where potential big mistakes begin.
So if he raises KQo/KJs/88-JJ type hands from UTG calling here is ok, but if he isn't then you're saying calling preflop is bad because a lot of MAWG UTG raising range is only QQ+/AK?