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1/2 TPGK weird spot river donk line check. 1/2 TPGK weird spot river donk line check.

12-19-2015 , 10:10 AM
1/2 at Normandy. Villain is unknown big Samoan guy with a beard as big as his Afro. Effective stacks are 120.

Hero has KJ in the CO. Villain in the HJ.

Folds to villain who open limps. Hero raises to 12. All fold and villain calls.

Flop: K T 6

Villain check, hero bets 20, villain calls.

Turn: blank 2

Villain checks hero checks.

River 2

Villain bets 40. Hero calls.
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12-19-2015 , 10:44 AM
I would bet the turn as it is draw heavy and your king is often good.
AP river is definitely a call.
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12-19-2015 , 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by jambre
I would bet the turn as it is draw heavy and your king is often good.
AP river is definitely a call.
+1. Not really a weird spot, just looks like you c-bet and gave up. V could easily be value betting a lot of worse hands OTR or possibly firing with a missed FD. Easy call.
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12-19-2015 , 01:02 PM
Easy river call. Don't love the turn check bc the board is so draw heavy and I think you're missing value. Do you range V on AK, KQ or KT? Feels like a weird line for those hands and you're pretty much beating everything else.
V easily can be betting a missed draw on river so easy call. If bet turn, V could still bluff river so that line is probably more profitable.
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12-19-2015 , 09:29 PM
Here's why it's weird:

Spoiler:


I felt he had strength when he called my flop bet.

He showed AK

Wtf?



So, it just has me thinking.

Am I doing something wrong that is inducing this kind of play ?

The line seems pretty weird.

When I find myself in these spots, it just has me questioning if I'm making some weird errors.
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12-19-2015 , 09:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlienBoy
Here's why it's weird:

Spoiler:


I felt he had strength when he called my flop bet.

He showed AK

Wtf?



So, it just has me thinking.

Am I doing something wrong that is inducing this kind of play ?

The line seems pretty weird.

When I find myself in these spots, it just has me questioning if I'm making some weird errors.
You played it fine, V just seems to be a fish who took an odd line. It happens sometimes, I don't think you can really be results oriented here. If you over adjust against all Vs under the assumption they play like this particular V, it's gonna be -EV. It sucks that you didn't have the best hand this time, but I'd take it with a grain of salt because I'm confident the way you played this hand will be profitable in the long term. Well played, seriously.
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12-19-2015 , 11:56 PM
It wouldn't be my standard to open this large when the only limper I'm iso'ing is short-stacked and we hold a hand that benefits from loose calls (K9-, JT-, etc). This iso size is standard in most situations so whatever.

As played, bet turn for fat value.

As played, call river. It's close to a value raise, given how many draws missed and the fact that it's so obvious we don't have a deuce, so you're gonna get a ton of light call downs. Too thin with KJ with a T on the board though (best hand we beat is K9).

The results are irrelevant. Villain is a fish. Fish do weird stuff. That weird stuff skews in our favor over the course of a large sample size, but there are not-so-rare times when we would have made more money off them if they didn't play so weird. Besides, if villain were a good, aggressive player, then we woulda been coolered for 3 streets of value, so ya know, it's all the cards' fault really.
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12-20-2015 , 02:12 AM
Okay thanks. Sometimes these guys confuse me, as in "am I screwing up in a way that leads to this".

Thanks for the sanity check
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12-20-2015 , 02:33 AM
I don't check turn. So much of his range is drawing. QJ, diamonds, 78, pairs with 5 outs like QT, JT. Doubt he checks 66 or KT on two streets so I'm going for max value and only every worried about KQ. Against a range of TT,66,ATs,KTs+,QTs+,JTs,T9s,8d7d,ATo,KTo+,QTo+,JTo ,T9o we're 60%.

95 behind, make it 50 OTT and shove most rivers.

Edit: Saw results, yea.. I see things like this sometimes too where the guy limp called with AA-QQ and just passively called down. Just turns out he's a fish at the top of his fish range in this particular hand.

Last edited by Stupidbanana; 12-20-2015 at 02:39 AM.
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