Hero (CO) ($400) - Just moved tables and only been sitting here a couple orbits. I have been getting a lot of playable cards, and most of the table is not too sticky post-flop so I was able to take down 3-4 pots without showdown. I definitely come off a bit loose/aggressive right now, when usually I have a much tighter image.

Villain (SB) ($800) - Old retiree type, but seems lucid/attentive. Have seen him play very few hands if any, and certainly no real aggression post-flop. (Again, only ~2 orbits). Biggest stack at table.

UTG and MP are not as important. I cover them in stack size, UTG is tight Asian guy who gives up a lot post flop, and MP limp/calls a ton and will float a lot of flops.

UTG limp, MP limps, Hero raises to $12 with AQo. Villain in SB calls, UTG and MP call.

Flop: Ah Qh 5s (Pot: ~$50)
Checks to Hero, who bets $30
SB raises to $80, UTG/MP fold
Hero calls $50 into $160 pot

Turn: 7d (Pot: ~$210)
SB bets $200. He has ~$500 behind.
Hero has ~$300 behind. Hero ?

Seems like an overplayed AK or 55. I probably call the raise OFT verse an unknown passive post flop old man. And fold the turn. You're not looking good against an OMC's range dispute having 70% equity against a range of AKo, AKs, and 55. Semi-bluffs are a non-factor here against a passive post-flop old man.

Yeah this is unexpected and 150 OTF would have slowed down one pair or A5. 200 seems pretty big. We can probably narrow the range to 55, QQ, AQ, A5suited, and AK. Now can this guy push 200 with AK. I have no idea, but I would weight it lighter.

Im absolutely stumped, and when I feel it is this close i tend to fold and take a walk.

I would get it in, but I'm sure he had 55 or QQ and you just got coolered.

With your description of villain, this is a fold as played. At best I think you are chopping, but he could have A5 or have you crushed or have a heart draw. I think just calling on flop puts you in a tough spot.

In game I probably would have raised flop with a plan to get it in.

If I had a great read on V with the tightness/non-aggressive without the goods, I'd just fold to his check-raise, as weak at that might be. (I hate two pair.)

edit: misread stack sizes. id get it in.

Ship it.
Exepct to lose 50% of the time or so. Profit in the long run.

gg, wp

Most LLNL players will play the following hands the same exact way:

Range: AK AQ A5 55 QQ. There's another small part of his range that includes other hands like KhJh, Kh10h, and weird stuff, but it's so small it's inconsequential.

Barring any reads/tells just shrug and get it in.

Well played.

He has 55 a lot here, and basically never hearts or a bluff... But as long as AQ and A5s are both in his pre-flop range, and there's a chance he plays AK like this, you really can't fold.

Gota get it in. If he has 55 then you got coolered, but cant fold top 2 here with no straight or flush made.

You guys saying to get it in (fine with me), would you have just called on flop?

Call and get it in on a bricked turn, or just 3b flop but that's going to narrow his range a lot more.

Absolutely.

We don't want him to fold AK, A5, or some other kind of A that was raising to see where he's at. Now that he check/raised, he has to continue his aggression on the turn enabling us to play for stacks vs. the weak part of his range. Even if he does not continue the aggression on the turn and checks, the pot is now big enough that we can bet the turn and play for stacks by the river.

I think this is pretty standard and I don't see a reason to think outside of the box on this hand.

you need a much better read than hero has to fold this.

I just wonder what V puts H on? I guess just calling on the flop gives V the feeling that H is weak and V can continue with bluffs or worse (as well as better). Just hard for me to think V is continuing with such a big bet with worse than AQ. Seems as if he wants flush draws gone but likes his hand. I hope it is A5.

I play it the same and get it in on the turn.

He plays AK and A5 the same way, and you don't have enough information on him to rule out Broadway combo heart draws.

I hate this spot.
Id like to raise flop -even min raise - to take back control of the hand or realize we are beat. If he chk raises, he is certainly going to keep hammering us on the turn. So when he does this I dont like calling at all...UNLESS you decide right there that you are playing for stacks. If that is the case then happily call and happily get it in on the turn. The decision for this hand is on the flop, in other words, not the turn.

With that said, on the flop the SPR is about 8 and we have 2 pair against OMC. We are happy to get it in...then comes the chk raise. At that points, his range, IMO, is AQs, AQo,A5s, AKo, AKs, 55,QQ, JKhh, TJhh - with the most likely IMO being the draws and the 55. This is a close one man...jeesh! I think I decide I am likely not playing for stacks (after the chk raise) and I want to find out right here where I stand. I min raise him on flop. If he has AQ,A5,AK he stays in but slows down. If he is on a draw he stays in but slows down. If he has us beat he lets us know. I think a raise here helps us play correctly and puts him in a spot to make a bad decision. And I think a low raise accompoishes this - i.e. we don't need to blow off more $$$ than necessary.

Turn PSB feels too strong for AK from older gentlemen. A5 is probably the bottom of his range here. Really depends on reads in real time, but I might find a fold.

OMC will do this with his entire range, AK included. He doesn't want you to call with your two pair draw or your flush draw. He's protecting his hand. Yes, he will have a set here sometimes and you just gotta take it. But top two is far enough ahead that you profit from this every time you get it in on the turn.

results?

Villain probably has all combos of AK here, get it in

This alone eliminates AK/flush draws in this spot, also eliminates A5o and possibly A5s, which there are only 2 combos of anyway. Sometimes these guys like to trap big pairs, so we can't rule those out either. We have 32% vs. QQ, 55, AQs, AQo

You can't get a strong enough read in a few orbits to lay this down. You've got blockers to AA and QQ. He's likely got AK or 55. He could have got a little spazzy because he flopped a royal flush draw.

I'd just shove the flop.

+1

If you expect to lose way less of 50% of the time. So, calling in this situation has a +EV that will make OP lots of money. Yes, just let him call.