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05-28-2017 , 08:55 AM
Table just opened about 30 minutes ago when this hand came up.

V: Young latin male, very chatty, girlfriend sitting behind him. Very agressive. He has seen every flop. The first five or six hands, he either opened or raised to $12. He straddles every chance he gets. He bought in for $300, won a lot of small pots uncontested. However, he overvalues Top pair hands. Saw him barrel all the way to the river two or three times with TPTK. He lost two of those hands. Two hands before our hand came up, he GII with AKs on a K high board and doubled up to a busted flush draw.

Hero: Older white male, haven't played many hands. Got AQo a few hands back in EP, opened $8 got three callers, missed the flop and ended up folding.

OTH

Hero ($225) UTG with AQ raises to $12,
Villian (covers) calls, Button calls

Flop ($36) A6Q

Hero checks knowing full well V will bet. V bets $25, Button folds, hero raises to $50, V reraises to $100

Hero???
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05-28-2017 , 09:29 AM
What an ugly situation. Does villain have a fold button? You say he has been in every pot, has he been folding flops? Did you see any bluff raises? Any min raises or reraises? You say he has been very aggressive but is it pots he raised or ones he called preflop?

My inclination is that your at the bottom of your check/min raise range so folding is OK on a dry board. If you have seen him bluff raise and/or min raise enough you might just have to go with this though.

It's a tough situation though because guys who play this way are likely to see a lot of these min-raises with AK trying to see if villain was serious and he may be trying to level you into folding. A lot of aggro fish also get fairly spastic when they have a big stack, making a lot of stupid aggressive moves.
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05-28-2017 , 09:32 AM
I don't hate the c/r on the flop if we know villain is betting close to 100% of the time, but I hate your sizing. I'd rather just lead $30 if we are only going to min raise.

As played, just jam. Unless he has complete air, I don't see how he bet/raises with anything that is folding for $100 more.
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05-28-2017 , 09:34 AM
No way I'm putting the described villain on exactly 66 and folding though. Never.
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05-28-2017 , 10:52 AM
Don't see how you do anything but call/shove
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05-28-2017 , 11:14 AM
I'm with everyone else here seems like a standard call/push. If he has a set so be it but you can't fold here.
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05-28-2017 , 01:28 PM
Ck-r too small. Just shove now.
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05-28-2017 , 01:32 PM
Call to keep his bluffs in

Get it in on turn

You may be shallow enough to just get it in on flop anyway though
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05-28-2017 , 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Amanaplan
Ck-r too small. Just shove now.
+1. Wouldn't get fancy with your opponent already having half of effective stacks in, and his tendency to overvalue TP.
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05-28-2017 , 01:41 PM
Agree with several of the above posters, vs described villain no way you can ever fold, the question is whether to shove now or wait until the turn. Probably just shoving and sighing when he has 66 (I assume that is why you posted this?) but nothing you can do.
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05-28-2017 , 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by QuadJ
What an ugly situation. Does villain have a fold button? You say he has been in every pot, has he been folding flops? Did you see any bluff raises? Any min raises or reraises? You say he has been very aggressive but is it pots he raised or ones he called preflop?

My inclination is that your at the bottom of your check/min raise range so folding is OK on a dry board. If you have seen him bluff raise and/or min raise enough you might just have to go with this though.

It's a tough situation though because guys who play this way are likely to see a lot of these min-raises with AK trying to see if villain was serious and he may be trying to level you into folding. A lot of aggro fish also get fairly spastic when they have a big stack, making a lot of stupid aggressive moves.
Not even close to the bottom of our range against a villain we expect to bet the flop always. Never folding in this spot against this villain. He has plenty of worse value raises and only 3 realistic combos we lose to.
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05-28-2017 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by browni3141
Not even close to the bottom of our range against a villain we expect to bet the flop always. Never folding in this spot against this villain. He has plenty of worse value raises and only 3 realistic combos we lose to.
He said that we were at the bottom of our c/r range against this villain, who is the kind we think is going to be barreling down frequently with one pair hands. What other hands are you c/r with on this board?
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05-28-2017 , 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by diskoteque
Call to keep his bluffs in

Get it in on turn

You may be shallow enough to just get it in on flop anyway though

I like this as well. There isn't that much to protect from if he ak or a worse 2p and I doubt he folds those hands anyway.
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05-30-2017 , 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by fishmeout
He said that we were at the bottom of our c/r range against this villain, who is the kind we think is going to be barreling down frequently with one pair hands. What other hands are you c/r with on this board?
Many, many hands could be reasonable to check/raise against a player who is betting when checked to so much and has such a wide flopping range. Any Ax could be reasonably check/raised for value, although I wouldn't be doing t at all the time with all of them, AK/A6/AJ are definitely strong candidates for a value x/r. We have lots of bluffs also that will have to be given up.
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05-30-2017 , 07:38 PM
i would not be raising described villain on this flop. im check/calling flop and turn and check/shoving river. give him the old rope-a-dope and let him hang himself.

AP im sticking with the above mentality and just calling flop, check calling turn and check-shoving river.
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05-30-2017 , 08:43 PM
flat flop
shove turn
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05-30-2017 , 08:46 PM
bet flop, as played, raise for more, as played, this is a fist pump get it in. If he has exactly AQ A6 66 youre way ahead. Id bet he also could have Q6, maybe even Ax.
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05-30-2017 , 09:12 PM
why is everyone here intent on taking away villains bluffs??? his girlfriend is sitting behind him and he is a young chatty latin guy and he has seen every flop raising 5 or 6 times when he first sat down. raising this player seems absurdly bad to me. if he has A6 or AK he's not going to slow down and if he has worse than a bad ace he's not going to slow down. and it doesnt appear like he has a weak ace. im so confused why you guys would be shoving this flop or even wanting to bet out the flop. give the ultra aggressive player some rope. he may even bet his weak aces thinking a queen would call him down...
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05-31-2017 , 01:16 AM
I like flatting flop and getting it in on the turn. Everyone seems agreed Villain should only ever have 3 combos that beat us. I'd rather let those worse two pairs or Ax have more of a reason of paying us off by waiting till the turn.
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