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Old 11-03-2013, 04:26 AM   #1
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1/2 top two on 3-flush board

Hero: 25 white male. Viewed as extremely loose aggressive, but is also winning. Took down a pot against villain with a j8o that flopped a straight, and has shown down tons of other bluffs and good hands. Stack $250.

Villain: 25 asian male. Villain moved directly to my left and keeps saying "I'm going to catch you one of these times" every time i PFR. Has an alcoholic drink, and may or may not be drunk. Has lost $70-80ish to hero via the straight hand and a few other standard cbets. Stack $300.

The hand.

Random villain in MP opens to 8. 2 Callers.
Hero SB has KJ and calls. V calls from BB.

Flop ($40): KJ2
Hero donks $40. Villain raises to $140. Is this a shove or a fold?
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Old 11-03-2013, 06:40 AM   #2
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Re: 1/2 top two on 3-flush board

I think this entirely depends on how the opponent has represented himself through playing the hand so far.
Either way a flush or set could be present or perhaps your oponnent has played AK in this fashion with an Ad . I just think that the hero donk bet was stupid in the first place. That's what really caused chaos in this decision.
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Old 11-03-2013, 08:28 AM   #3
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Bad raise, instant fold.

Your raise is >PSB. Awkward coming from first position with two behind. If you wanted to bet, 15-30 would have been ideal.

The ideal play would have been check/call. See the turn, reevaluate if the bet OTF is callable.
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Old 11-03-2013, 08:43 AM   #4
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If your read of his perception of you is accurate get it in. He probably flats most flushes and lets you barrel if he moved directly on your left/thinks you're a spazz monkey. If he has a set oh well nh onto the next one. Also not a fan of the flop donk, especially the sizing but as played given reads never folding.
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Old 11-03-2013, 09:02 AM   #5
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Re: 1/2 top two on 3-flush board

I know LAGs don't fold pre, butK KJo from the SB is a fold pre.

What was the PSB otf trying to accomplish? Would a raise or a flat have been more reason to worry for you? A PSB is a better bet to get something like 3d4d to fold not get value from anything except AdKx or AdJx.
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