Parx 1-2 table, sat down about an hour before.

Hero - late 20s British guy, not massively experienced playing live in a casino, also pretty much a fish but a fish who is trying to get better. Stack $300.

My image - have shown down exactly 2 hands:

1 - Q9 from bb where it was limped and I checked, flop came down 9 high and I lost a small pot to K9.

2 - Called a shove with a set vs pair and OESD on the turn and straight draw got there on river, I wasn't visibly annoyed by it until the guy slammed his cards down and said "straight, beat that".

I have been fairly active raising and 3 betting preflop but I had been getting smacked by the deck, no-one had seen me get out of line.

Villain - mid 20s dude who won the small pot off of me with K9. He's also been fairly active, seems aggressive but has made a few tank folds and seems solid. Has me waaaaay covered ($900ish).

Hand:

4 limps including V in MP, I'm in BB with A2, I check.

Flop - A72

Old nitty dude leads $10, only Villain calls, Hero raises to $45, original bettor folds and now Villain raises to $110 after flatting initial lead.

Hero?????

Unless you changed seats, how did the K9 vs Q9 hand go down. Did you c/c all the way or did you lead out?

Is his limping range really really wide (like calling preflop 80% of the time)?

When you say he's aggressive, is he taking down lots of pots post-flop with raises like this? Have you seen him play draws aggressively like this?

A7, as well as 77 and 22 are certainly in his range. Also given in the same spot (you BB, him having position on you) he kept the pot small with TPGK, I would say this is probably a fold unless you have that read that he plays draws aggressively.

Same position as before, I bet and only he called the flop, check check on turn, I check called a v small bet on river.

What I mean by aggressive is mainly aggressive pre-flop, hadn't seen him raise a draw and show it down to my knowledge, but he was often raising a ton of limpers from late position, he was not limping in much other than from LP with a ton of others, was probably playing about 30/25 or something similar to that.

He was good, he wasn't massively loose, and yeah looking back on it I think the ONLY 3 hands he does this with vs me are the three mentioned above, or total air. I think he flats the raise with a draw, probably.

Meh, I dunno.

I'm confused: was your flop raise a c/r? I'd rather just lead out and start valuetowning people. There's no guarantee one of these clowns will do your betting for you.

There aren't a ton of great draws out there, especially with the ace being a club. He can't have air if he called the nit's lead initially. It'll definitely be FDs sometimes so you could make an argument for flatting and getting it in on non-club turns if you were IP, but even then I'd prefer to just fold now.

Ugh yeah fail, it was a check raise, reason for checking here into 4 people one of them will have something they will bet with, if they don't then meh.

I'm glad everyone is saying fold, have spoken about this with friends and they say they're not sure they can find a fold at a 1-2 table here.

Anyway, I actually flatted because I am a moron and ended up losing a big pot to 77.

c/r just seems like the best way to announce that you have >1pair imo

I'd fold. Is he really doing this with AK/AQ? I'd expect to see 77/22 way more often than anything else since he probably raises A7 the first time around. Getting back-raised on the flop is almost always a nutted hand.

I gave alot of thought to this one, and I have decided pretty confidently on a fold.

A solid, TAG player is going to be raising any big A pre flop, so I pretty much eliminate any kind of AT+.

He limped. A solid player will know to limp small-middle pairs sometimes so they can set mine in multi way pots, for reasons like this hand.

A 3-bet of a c/r is far too strong for be done on a FD. That would be spew city.

So, when you look at raising or calling. Shoving this 3-bet would be a monsterous spew, since you are almost NEVER getting called by worse. Flatting the bet is also quite bad, since a flat of the $110 leaves you with 1/3 of your stack in the middle, with a remaining stack under pot size, out of position. Not a position we want to be in.

This is a fold. His range screams 77 or 22. Fold and be happy he gave you that 3- bet on the flop to scare you away, since if he flats your c/r you are almost certainly going broke on the turn.

Cool, these were my thoughts post-mortem, glad people agree. The only thing that entered my mind was that he had knew I was at least thinking and could get me to fold, but in that spot with a backraise it's very unlikely.

Thanks folks, I will get better.

The main point of this is that c/r (or even leads for that matter) from the blinds in a limped pot is at minimum two pair.

Raising a solid Tag and a nit is not good. It essentially turns your hand into a bluff vs both these guys, as a nit isn't sticking around with a naked ace with a guy behind him and you c/ring (fyi nit never leads pot with a flushdraw+2unders). Tag is easily going to put A2 (and perhaps 72) at the bottom of your range.

When he re-raises you he probably has only 22/77 only. He probably doesn't reraise with a7, and even then there is only one combo of a7s (hearts) that he'd consider limping in with.

Best line to take vs these opponents is c/c by far imo.


Also back raises are almost always nutted.