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1/2 Too Thin for Value Bet? 1/2 Too Thin for Value Bet?

06-07-2014 , 12:35 PM
Once V checks this river, we should bet ~ 30-35 for value. I don't think he is checking back 2p+ hoping to c/r you.

You can get looked up by 99-JJ and pairs of 7s and 8s on this board, because a lot of his range includes pair + draws on the turn.
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06-07-2014 , 12:40 PM
^ Agree with that except for the sizing. I don't think 8x or 7x is calling $35 into $64. You can bet for value you just need to bet an amount that the hands you're targeting will call. I'd bet $15-$20.
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06-09-2014 , 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Axel Foley
Just for fun, here's a third installment of "Is it Fat Enough?"

Wednesday night at Harrah's. Couple grinders at the table getting hours toward the freeroll, otherwise fish. Table is eight handed.

Villain in this hand is a white guy in his 30s. VPIP/PFR 60/10. In his only pot with hero I raised pre, he called. Flop T 7 5. He checks, hero bets 2/3 pot, he calls. Turn 4. He bets 1/2 pot, hero folds, he shows 88. Not sure if he's aware that he executed the Johnny Chan play, but found it interesting. He starts with $500.

Hero is a white guy in his late 20s. VPIP/PFR 20/15. Haven't shown down any big hands yet tonight. I start with $400.

One limp, hero raises to $12 in MP with Q Q, villain calls in SB, limper calls. $34 in pot after drop.

Flop A 8 3. Checks around.

Turn A 8 3 7. Villain bets $15, limper folds, hero calls. $64 in pot after drop.

River A 8 3 7 5. Villain checks. Hero ???

Given V's line, the type of hands I'm looking to get value from include JJ/TT/99/98/T8, probably a few other 8x combos as well. Do we see his x/c range including enough stuff like this compared to Ax? How often do we think he x/c (or x/r attempt) with random two pairs? Let me know what you think.
Results:

Hero bets $25, villain calls. Villain shows A9o.
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