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OP, what are you beating on the river? Missed flush draws that don't include the 8h?

Also, how does limping preflop in 1/2 NL mean it's unlikely someone has an Ace?

And how do you have an image and such deep reads, it's your 5th hand at the table?

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05-11-2010 , 10:23 PM

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shaggy_p

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Originally Posted by 2OutsNoProb

I've played with a majority of those same people before (especially the main villain) as I frequent that casino a lot and have a pretty tight image overall there. and yes, I'm beating missed flush draws and even broadway gutshots because he is more than capable of calling with that on the flop as I've seen him do it before with terrible odds.

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05-11-2010 , 10:26 PM

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shaggy_p

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Originally Posted by bulls_horn

I'm confused. Op raised to 7xBB pf with 57sooted, c-bet with bottom-pair-crap-kicker, then when he's bet into for almost pot-sized bet he ponders if he could possibly be any good...Yet Villain1 (who folded when he missed the flop) is the "donk" "fish", and Villain2 (who didn't respect OP's raise on a previous hand) is an "idiot".

oh my goshhh I think you're on to something, the op is the donk/fish/idiot because he's not playing abc poker!1!1!1!!

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05-12-2010 , 03:39 PM

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JohnDinKC

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Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 33

I think its a fold. Not much you are beating. Unless you are absolutley sure he missed a draw. Is it possible he had the 10 and the BB had a weak ace? Maybe a heart draw that contained the 8h? Or even himself having a weak ace? Too much out there to call with bottom pair.

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05-12-2010 , 04:04 PM

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grungedave

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I have no problem raising in position with 5

. It's the kind of hand that pays huge when you hit. Along those lines, when you flop "only" one pair AND an Ace hits the board, this is the time to slow down when your c-bet doesn't drag the pot immediately. Once you fail to improve by the river it's not a spot to be committing any more chips in.

After MP quickly bets out $75 on the river, there aren't many holdings you are actually beating - I'd fold with confidence unless you had some previous history with villain that would lend itself to a better soul read.

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05-12-2010 , 04:41 PM

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monkeymaps

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you cant say that the villians in the hand are tards that call down with all kinds of crap THEN make a play preflop and on the flop that relys on have some FE to work. Im as guilty of this stuff as anyone because I get bored so easy playing live sometimes. There are times for mixing it up but your stack sizes/villians do not warrant it in this spot.

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05-12-2010 , 05:38 PM

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2OutsNoProb

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Originally Posted by shaggy_p

But do they comprise a large % of hands that lead the river for $75? I've seen very few players that turn QJo into a big river bluff in these spots. It's a lot more likely that he has a huge hand. 55 and Tx are absolutely within the realm of possibility.

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05-12-2010 , 05:51 PM

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Man of Means

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Originally Posted by shaggy_p

Not too many people wanting to play sheriff at 1/2, at least not at the games I play.

If this is the case, then you should consider firing a second barrel.

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Originally Posted by grungedave

I have no problem raising in position with 5

. It's the kind of hand that pays huge when you hit.

But there is no reason to raise it and turn what is an implied odds hand into a reverse implied odds hand (i.e. facing a decision for a good chunk of your stack with one pair because you've put so much money in on the first two streets). If hero raises 75s in position with 100bb stacks, it is with the intent of stealing postflop... the flopping huge plan is a fallback that will not occur often enough to justify a raise.