Hi guys, I used to grind 6-max turbo SnGs on cake poker and recently picked up hold'em again and play at my local card room now.

Hero ($200) UTG+1 - Hasn't played many hands in the past 2-3 hours, table has commented on how tight he has been playing.

Villain 1 ($140) MP -possibly an okay player, but does things like shove with pocket sixes against a pre-flop raise. I believe he has shown doing it with aces one time also.

Villain 2 ($400) BB - Loose, tricky player. He's bluffed a couple big pots and has been caught once or twice. Has history with hero and knows how tight he plays.

Action

Hero (UTG+1) raises with QQ to $12 (pretty standard raise for this table).
Villian 1 (MP) min-raises to $24. I thought his range here was pretty wide, probably ATs+,AJo+,88+, so I wasn't too concerned about him.

Villian 2 (BB) 4-bets to $75. The pot is $112 at this point and I was stuck between folding and shoving.

Hero Action??

I ended up shoving because I put him on a range of QQ+, AKo, AKs, which I had 40% equity against, and he didn't have to fold AKo/AKs very often to make this push +EV (I think it's about 18% if my calculation is correct). I thought he would fold the AK part of his range pretty often given how often he plays with me and how he knows my tendency to play pretty tight.

My question is, was it too far of a stretch to assume AK was in his range for that 4-bet? How often do you see decent players at 1/2 4-bet with hands other than QQ+? I'm not sure if that was the right move there.

Result:
Villain 1 folds either AQ or AK, Villain 2 calls with AA and I suck out with a Q.

Fold.

I know it sucks, but you've been super card dead for hours.
Then you get 3bet, and cold 4bet. This is KK+ and maaaaaybe AKs but I doubt the last part. Esp with how tight you've been playing.

I'd feel ok with a fold here.

Yea pretty easy fold ... ithink in most cases people do not cold4b ak,aks live nor qq in this situation

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Cold 4bet is way stronger than raise 4bet

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Are you saying KK is a fold too?

Fold. Villain 2 has AA,KK and maybe some combos of QQ and AK

Cold 4 bet is always KK plus. You should of saved the results though. The only thing that makes me think shoving is ok is the min 3 bet by the other V may of been perceived as weak by the tricky villan. I still don't think someone is capable of 4 betting light u less I see other wise.

Thanks, I'll be sure to hold back the results next time. Might bias some answers, but I didn't feel very good about the shove and I took about 45 seconds to do it