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Originally Posted by QuinnthEskimo
I realize that GTO strategy is usually not the most profitable one, especially in llsnl games. I already deviate heavily from GTO strategy by first of all, not knowing what it is in mostly all of the spots I face, but also by over folding spots I assume to be GTO calls and under bluffing spots that would better balance out my over all strategy.....
......Please feel free to share your thoughts on the hand as well. thanks....
I agree with the red bolded above. I really don't have a firm grasp of exactly what GTO strategy is either. I read a lot about it years ago, but since it is of really of no use in LLSNL games I put aside trying to figure it out or employ it in my play.
From what i recall it is about a balanced calling range/folding range/bluffing range a certain percentage of the time with similar holdings against similar bets/aggression from opponents. Problem is, in live poker when that similar situation comes up again, it may have be 3 weeks since it did, and I have no idea what i did in that similar situation, so balance is out the window per se. I rely much more on reads by paying attention to everything at the table and go from there. Although not always correct obviously, it is much better than trying to look at your watch and deciding whether to call or not. (Harrington)
Not sure exactly how relevant this is but there is an ancient Asian game called "GO." It is a board game with more possible positions (moves) than there are atoms in the universe. In South Korea, masters of this game are treated like rock stars. Google's DeepMind project came up with an AI program to take on the best player on the planet. It is a great documentary called "ALPHAGO" on Netflix.
Don't read the spoiler if you want to watch the documentary first. This doc has a 100% rating on Rotten Tomatoes and I highly recommend it.
How I think it is relevant to GTO is that the Masters of this game tend to punish their lesser skilled opponents and will and can end the game relatively quickly with a very large point advantage. (Think points = $$$ in Poker terms) Alpahgo on the other hand learned the game and since the programmers ultimate goal was to "win" the game, Alphago didn't care whether it won by 1 point or a 1000 points, it just wanted to win.
Therefore, Alphago would make very unorthodox moves (balance?) that cost itself points, but ultimately were better moves for trying to win the game according to it's algorithms. Did it work? Watch it or read the spoiler. As for GTO, it seems like if you play enough hands with a balances or even unorthodox strategy at times, you will profit (win) in the long run, not be exploited, but by no means be a crusher (by accumulating the most points/$$$) in the games.
That obviously a very long winded way of saying that every time I see someone ask what the GTO play would be, my answer is I don't care because it is irrelevant.
As for the hand in question, I would have folded on the turn. You had just called him down with 1 pair earlier and he is making polarizing bets hoping you will call him down with 1 pair again. Even when the A hits on the river he fires again. I'm not putting any more money in the pot.
TL;DR This is why I don't post much because most people won't read it anyway.