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Old 01-06-2014, 12:37 AM   #1
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Villain300) I have some history with this villain. He's a solid player and respects my game. Usually we stay out of each other's way. He has a pre raising tell. Typically he raises 10-12 with mid pairs and 15-17 with AK/AA/KK. I have seen him do this on multiple nights I've played with him.

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Two limpers, villain raises to 10, 3 callers, I call in BB with KQss, two limpers call.

Should I be raising/folding this spot?

Flop (60) 6s 4s 3c

Three checks to villain who bets $55, folds to me. Two guys after me already look like they are ready to muck. I feel like I possibly have one, if not two overs and flush draw. I think villain will give me credit for two pairs, sets, straights if I raise him. I think he will fold his mid pairs at least 20 percent of the time and call if he has AA/KK. Is this flawed thinking? Should I raise this spot or call and donk turn?
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Old 01-06-2014, 12:56 AM   #2
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Re: 1/2: Standard all in spot?

Well honestly, if this were online poker, I would be getting it in. 1/2 live though, I'm probably calling here and donking turn depending on the bet size.....if you have 2 other people calling almost pot sized bets of $50-60, then I'm going to probably get it in. But being that it is 1/2, im guessing the bet was closer to around $20-35. In this situation, you are a huge favorite with a monster draw. There really isn't a need to go crazy unless the pot is huge. Wait till you hit it on the turn or river....They are giving you very cheap odds, take them and make them pay when you hit (remember to value bet for top pair-sets and overpairs when you do hit.) No need to turn this into a coin flip here. Also, remember that you are really playing the other two fishy callers not the reg. He is probably slowing down on the turn unless he has huge hand/huge draw. The level 1 poker thinkers are going to be the ones lining your pockets, not the solid villian
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Old 01-06-2014, 01:04 AM   #3
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Pf call is fine.

Next time donk this 25-35.
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Old 01-06-2014, 02:45 AM   #4
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3b pf, as played I would call flop, I doubt you have any FE when he pots it. You could be up against a set.
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Old 01-06-2014, 02:53 AM   #5
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Re: 1/2: Standard all in spot?

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Old 01-06-2014, 03:05 AM   #6
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Re: 1/2: Standard all in spot?

This won't be popular, but really you should be 3bet/folding this. Your position is going to suck for the rest of the hand so either take the initiative and 3 bet with blockers or fold. KQss is a fun hand but not when calling a raise OOP.
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Old 01-06-2014, 11:03 PM   #7
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Do I really want to be 3 betting here with 5 people behind?

For the people saying I should donk bet the flop is this to get some of the passives to call before jamming?

With this guy I'm positive I'm not up against a set from past experiences.
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Old 01-06-2014, 11:29 PM   #8
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Re: 1/2: Standard all in spot?

no reads? time to jam? but here you have a read and it makes his range weaker.... so you better jam
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Old 01-06-2014, 11:40 PM   #9
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Re: 1/2: Standard all in spot?

Easy 3bet pre given the read.

As played I CRAI, unless you have a strong read that his sizing indicates a set.
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Old 01-07-2014, 05:55 AM   #10
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Re: 1/2: Standard all in spot?

So do you want him to call or fold???
With this hand its pretty fine either way, shoving screams FD imo, too many people play it that way.

x/r-120/c / jam 130 on turn. If villain is solid it should fold him off a bunch where he reckons he's got 2 outs for future streets and lets fish call without being too scared because they don't think of future streets and may make us $120 if we get a good squeeze on them. Seems pretty high variance but we want as much money in the pot as possible for every situation except when villain has like A10ss which is a cold-deck imo but gives us a line where he just might fold it, whereas jamming never does.
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Old 01-07-2014, 07:03 AM   #11
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Re: 1/2: Standard all in spot?

1/2: Standard all in spot?... With your reads i believe so.
Although it is a "high variance play" as you are likely getting called IMHO.
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