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1/2 spew or good spot to bluff? 1/2 spew or good spot to bluff?

05-05-2018 , 12:00 PM
1/2 8handed, Action has been pretty furious

Villain 1 (MP, 120 BB) : relatively solid player in his early 40s, is pretty aggressive when checked to, but generally shows strong hands at showdown

Villain 2 (MP2, 80BB): loose-aggressive, with odd lines; in the beginning I thought he would be a solid LAG but right now he is just too loose to be a winner

Hero (SB, 95 BB): I think half of the Players think I am pretty bad, the other have me down as solid, been playing tight passive but got unlucky at most showdowns

Preflop:

MP1 limps
MP2 limps
BU limps

Hero (SB, 56ss) raises to 15. I raise here 30% of the time, limping 70%.

MP1 calls, MP2 calls, BU folds.

Pot is roughly 45.

Flop:

A35r (with the 3 of spade)

I sometimes bet here, sometimes check. I do that with Ax too. One thing I learnt on 1/2 that I bet too much with mediocre hands and price myself out when raised. I don’t think check calling this flop against a modest bet is terrible, but I could be

MP1 bets 30$ quickly, MP2 min raises to 60$ after short deliberation

MP1 is often betting here with bluffs, semibluffs, Ax. He is not the guy to stack off with let’s say A7 here.

This is a typical spot for MP2 to make his moves. A lot of money in the pot and a relatively dry board with the A as scare card. I don’t think he can rep much here,
once in a while he might have AA or 33 but generally in my perception is often week. Plus he is one of the guys, who often minraise bluff to find a comfortable fold.

Hero goes into the tank. Them playing 24 seems unlikely , so I am only dreading a set (only 33 likely for MP1) and aces up. Against Ax I am far from dead. I got this strange sensation and after a rush of blood to the head I announce allin
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05-05-2018 , 01:20 PM
I think spew.

Here's the thing, what sort of story are you telling with your ai? I think that if your opponents think it through they will see that it doesn't make sense.

If you were unknown to me when you raised pre, you could have had a medium to large pair, broadway type hand, or a good Ace. That's what I would put you on at first.

If you had like 77s-KKs, no way you're going all-in here with an bet and raise in front of you. Let's say you had AA and flopped top set, the ai doesn't make sense either as you can extract more value on the coming streets. Yes the board has a small straight possibility, but they would need A-wheel card, or some sort of small connecting cards. If they flopped two pair, they would be pretty much drawing dead. I don't think you would move ai with a smaller set either.

So that leaves repping a big Ace like AK/AQ. Again in this situation are you going to shove almost 100bbs on the flop with a pair? Are your opponents ever going to call you with worse?

When I think it through the ai seems like some sort of scared overbet/semibluff. Maybe your opponents are not thinking players and will lay down thinking you have at least AK/AQ, but I just don't see most players playing AK/AQ this way.

The only hand I see taking this line would be maybe two pair (probably bottom two) hoping to get a call from a good Ace.

Last edited by VipassanaMan; 05-05-2018 at 01:28 PM.
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05-05-2018 , 04:52 PM
Vipassana's post is better than mine but I'm going to say that this is a bad spot to bluff because action says solid player likes his hand and bad player likes his hand...when 1/2 players like their hands trying to get them to lay down for 100bb is not good poker.
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05-05-2018 , 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by BeenAWhile
I got this strange sensation and after a rush of blood to the head I announce allin
Yeah, you just got the gambler's high. Your internal conversation went something like, "I'll show these losers who's got the biggest balls here and how wrong they were to mark me as a bad player."

The gambler's high has destroyed more poker players than illegal and legal drugs. Until you control it, you'll spew like this on a regular basis. The hard part is that poker is frankly boring without a little of the gambler's high. Think about how long you'd play poker if the stakes were matchsticks that you were going to return at the end of the game. The best players look for other outlets to get that high away from the poker table. They'll either do prop bets, degen in the pits, or bet on anything else. At the table, they don't indulge in it.

As soon as you feel that again, fold your hand, walk away from the table and don't come back until you're over it. All you will do is spew.
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