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Given how the hand played out folding OTR is fine.

Raise more PF, 15 is way too small in a straddled pot with a limper. I also dislike the flop minraise but it depends on what you are planning to do OTT.

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11-29-2015 , 03:47 PM

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TripleH68

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 6,555

Villain bet/3 bet flop?

I raise larger ott. Show me a fish who bet/3 bets a rainbow flop and then folds the turn? He puts you on AA here every time and calls of all 2pr +.

EZ game.

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11-29-2015 , 03:59 PM

#28

jchauvin

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 4,761

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Originally Posted by venice10

Don't raise pf in MP with 76o, don't call 3bets on the flop with a draw, don't show your cards before showdown and don't try to chat up the villain in the middle of a hand.

If I made that many mistakes in a single hand, I'd call to punish myself so I'd remember to never do those things again.

It's amazing how consistently wrong your strat advice is. The hand is suited, and raising it in mp is fine when deep against a soft table. And folding to the flop 3b (I would usually flat the lead tho!) when very deep in position getting 3.5:1 is, simply, objectively incorrect and implies you have no idea how to properly process information at a poker table.

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11-29-2015 , 04:43 PM

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TiltenFish93

newbie

Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 22

Triple H isent his hand pretty face up once he 3 bets the flop. I'm 99% sure villian is ready to stack off the river even if his hand doesn't improve. That being the case why should I jam the turn when villian has 10 outs to improve? I really don't think I'm losing any equity on the turn. If anything i built up the pot for a river shove so villian will have no problem stacking off.

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11-30-2015 , 02:24 AM

#30

browni3141

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 5,678

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Originally Posted by venice10

Don't raise pf in MP with 76o

It's 76s.

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...don't call 3bets on the flop with a draw

What else would you do when you get 3!? Folding is just clearly incorrect based on odds and 4-betting would be spew because LLSNL players don't 3!/f.

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...don't show your cards before showdown and don't try to chat up the villain in the middle of a hand.

Some villain's will give off tells when you talk with them. There's nothing wrong with doing this if you get results with it (as opposed to just wasting everyone's time)

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11-30-2015 , 02:35 AM

#31

philepistemer

grinder

Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 554

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Originally Posted by TiltenFish93

hey guys thanks a lot for the feedback I really do appreciate it. I just felt that villian was going to call any river bet as long as the board didn't pair so it was pointless to jam the turn. Villian seems competent enough to think I have AA/KK here.

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Originally Posted by TiltenFish93

My question is for those who think villian is bluffing, what can he possibly have that got him to the river!? A rec player 3 betting the flop!? That screams I flopped a set. At least that's the way I see it.

Op, you are correct that not jamming turn is a good play if villain has a set and is stacking off on any river because it is better to get in all the loot with 100% equity as opposed to 77% equity, but that presents two questions:
(1) Why post if you are so sure villain has a set here?
(2) Why raise turn at all if you can always get in all the money on the river when the board doesn't pair?

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11-30-2015 , 03:01 AM

#32

PajamaBottoms

journeyman

Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 210

I understand that the following comment is probably minimally helpful.

I do not believe the preflop action as described. EP limped in a BU straddle pot, you make it only $15, and only that limper called?

Isn't it exciting to raise with 76s, actually flop draw, raise the flop, and hope to hit!

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11-30-2015 , 03:18 AM

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letzplayHU

journeyman

Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 246

If that's the case, then villain is pretty much has T8 or a boat+. How can you discount T8 and know he has a set? Players **** up top 2 and OP + paired river all the time, he could think he has the nuts with T8 right? If V is never making this mistake then I can understand fold.

It really looks like you have an OP.. Would most villains realize the paired 5 counter-fits them? Then if so we can fold, otherwise I'm calling.

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