Hero: 25 White male, viewed as pretty LAG. Losing slightly this session (-$100), stack is at $160.

V1: 25 Asian male, playing TAG but losing slightly this session too. Stack $120.

V2: 60 White male, deals at the casino and I'd categorize him as slightly on the nitty side. Covers both me and V1.

The hand:

V1 raises to $8 from MP. V2 calls directly behind. Folds around to hero in SB with A10. Hero Calls, BB folds.

Flop (Pot $24):

A109

Hero checks, V1 bets $14. V2 calls. Hero C/R to $54. V1 calls. V2 shoves. Hero??

Call. Not really a sick spot with 80bb, sucks if you got coolered. Also fold pre.

Hero shove V1 fold v2 flush draw vs hero top 2

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Not folding this for 3bb on top pre. But closer than i initially believed it to be. Snapcall

Super easy call as played. I'd 3 bet pre.

Snap call. Lol @ "fold pre"

+1

What flops are you liking other than T high or ATx? Good way to value own yourself against AJ+

grunch: call

snap call i think, especially with this price. i'd call with top 2 for much more too, even against slightly nitty villain. i'd also probably raise or fold this pre.

Fold pre all day. Major leak to call here pre.

Fold preflop. Against a TAG player calling with ATo from the button would be marginal to bad depending on how tight his range is, calling from the blind is a big leak.

As played, call and hope your facing an A rag diamond draw and a lower diamond draw. Your really only in bad shape if one of them has a set and those hands are unlikely and should be raising the first time around. Against most other combinations your a bit less then 50/50 to win, but since you close to triple up when your hand holds up it's +EV.

Fold pre. Major leak calling tag mp raise with ATo from the blinds
Also top off your stack

Flop is a FUuST PUMP shoooove

[ ] sick spot

Short and OOP with a crappy RIO hand...yes, this is a fold pre.

As played, not sick, get in in.

Lol @ Lol @ "fold pre"

If you have to fold pre, you're saying that you are incapable of hand-reading and folding marginal hands. How do we expect to get better at this game if we can't profitably open up our range to AT here? AT is a fine hand.

When a friend of mine wants to learn how to play poker and asks me what hands are good and what hands are bad, I give him a range of good hands, and to fold everything else. Do I follow the same range? No, because I've been playing longer and my experience allows me to play a wider range more profitably. If we can't trust hero to play AT here and play accordingly post flop, how do we ever expect him to get better? If this hand was posted at higher stakes, would we be hearing fold pre from their regulars?

If hero this hand is a beginner, which is probably the case since I think we can all agree this is a fist pump get it in spot, then yes, fold pre. You are not ready to play this type of hand out of position. But to say in general that it would be a major leak, I disagree with that.


EDIT: And yes please start topping off your stack.

gibberish

the main thing is that mp is described as TAG and only has 60 bb's

Yes. Well the good ones anyway

Regardless of how much experience you have, why would you voluntarily play such a vulnerable hand from the worst possible position? I don't think experience should give you the confidence or the motivation to jump into pots with marginal hands OOP. I think experience should teach you to avoid spots like this.

Nothing could be further from the truth. I see 4 key fundamental areas where we can put ourselves at an advantage right from the outset of a hand:

1) Skill
2) Hand Strength
3) Position
4) Aggression

People think that they can just outplay people post-flop but that simply isn't the case if you play with poor preflop fundamentals. Aside from that, AToff is not that great even if you flop top pair and isn't a good drawing hand on pretty much any board.

FWIW, I played 6max super laggy online and still have super laggy tendencies especially when I'm tilted and even when I'm steaming from burning through (and leaking) several buyins I'm still not playing so poorly that I will call with AToff from the blinds.

If I ever play A10 oop I 3 bet it pre. I mostly only do this online. Never flat

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