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05-05-2017 , 08:43 PM
Both villains in hand have not gotten too crazy in the few hours I've been playing. Effective stacks 300.

Hero with As 10d

Another player raised to 7 and had 6 callers.

Flop comes Ac Ad 8d

V1 leads for 40, V2 tank calls 40, hero.....

V1 will never have a draw here but v2 definitely can be.

Considering there is really no bluffing from these guys. What is the best move here? Is calling an option considering I'll still have no idea what to do on the turn or do I have a case of the MUBS?
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05-05-2017 , 08:50 PM
The preflop action is unclear. Is V1 the same "another player", or is V1 donking into a field of 7 players and by the time the action gets to you the preflop raiser (and a few others) are yet to act?

I hope you realize why this information is important when you're asking the forum for hand analysis.
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05-05-2017 , 09:07 PM
You limped with ATo and hit trip A's with a lower kicker. Other than KJQ, what were you hoping to hit? Board is dd as well, so draws are a part of ranges.

Raise to $100 - $120, gii ott.
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05-05-2017 , 09:10 PM
Don't ship or fold. Call and see what develops on the turn. I'm not sure what happened preflop but A10 kind of sucks. You flop trip aces and you wanna fold.
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05-05-2017 , 09:51 PM
Unknown originally raised and v1 v2 called after two others called. I've just been running so poorly lately that's it's definitely effecting my play. So calling is the better play? Are we folding if it's bombed by v2 or call My small value bets on turn? I know this may be a basic hand but I'm floundering these days
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05-05-2017 , 09:53 PM
I'm guess I'm confused because I don't think these villains are show My up with worse than Ax 95 percent of the time. I think I've officially become scared of monsters under my bed
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05-05-2017 , 09:58 PM
I try to get to the river cheap. If his turn bet is like $65 I'm out of there, may not be able to will myself to call another $40, but depending on my read I may. If I did call another $40 on the turn I would try to make sure that my demeanor and quickness conveyed that nothing would get me off the hand, in a vain attempt at a free river.

I would fold this pre, my cutoff would probably be A-10s even for a small raise like this. A-10 is the ultimate trap hand, it's just good enough to be 'kind of a hand' but it can't beat anything besides A-rag.

Edit: I NEVER ship here, not with $300 to start the hand. I'd consider shipping under $100 if the V leading was bluffy, but even then, again A-10 only beats A-rag. Actually with the 8 on board, a jam is saying "I think he has air, a pocket pair, a lone pair of 8s, or A2, A3, A4, A5, A6, A7, or A9". It's possible but really doesn't seem likely based on the information provided.

Last edited by TheJackhammer; 05-05-2017 at 10:11 PM.
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05-06-2017 , 08:03 AM
hero should jam because it's fun.
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05-06-2017 , 08:08 AM
I mean seriously, wtf happened pre-flop? What's our position? Who raised, and from where....
How can you expect us to analyse a Hand when you have given us no information, your basically just asking if at is any good on an ace ace board.... Probably, but maybe not depending on the pre-flop action.....
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05-06-2017 , 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by NoReads TimeToJam
Unknown originally raised and v1 v2 called after two others called. I've just been running so poorly lately that's it's definitely effecting my play. So calling is the better play? Are we folding if it's bombed by v2 or call My small value bets on turn? I know this may be a basic hand but I'm floundering these days
you have been playing for "a few hours"

You should have a rock solid read on these two players. What are they calling raises with pre? Do they call with Ax? Are they 3! their big Aces? Do they overvalue hands that are going to be crushed just bcause of absolute strength? How about the original raiser...was this a good squeeze spot?

Also Y do you think you have to jam or fold?
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