Hey guys!

Generally loose passive table.

HERO/CO(300) Young 20s white, has been fairly snug and aggro. Villian respects HERO alot and has even folded KK preflop to HEROs raise in a previous game.

Villian/MP(300) MAWG, drunk and fairly straightforward. Generally loose passive. Peels the flop super light including 2nd pairs and SDs on FD type boards and is never going to bluff rep the flush however, plays pretty fit/fold on turn/river. Have seen him raise combo draws and TP+fd type hands.

4 limps

HERO makes it 15 with QJ
3 calls

4way
FLOP(63) AT8

3 checks
HERO goes 40
folds to V who calls

HU
TURN(143) 5

V tank checks.
HERO checks. Thoughts on firing a second barrel?

RIVER(143) 3

V tank checks

Hero? Im a bit lost, I know sometimes he will have a flush, however its almost always a small/medium flush.. Furthermore I think if he had a flush he would have bet.

I also don't feel like we have enough SDV here.

meh, I think this is one of the few times pre-flop we can limp since a raise will just bloat the pot with a marginal holding. With 4 limps already, I like seeing a cheap flop in this spot. I could also see folding but that is too nitty IMO.

I would check the flop here, this board is very coordinated with flush and straight draws and Ax is a real possibility from any of the limpers. With 3 other players in the pot, I think you are rarely going to get a fold here with the wet flop. Then you will have to give up on the turn unless you hit your 4-outter. Furthermore, by betting here you are opening yourself up for a c/r where you will be forced to fold. Since you close the action, by checking you get to see the turn card.

I like a second barrel here, based on player descriptions. You said V is capable of calling light on the flop, so he could have Tx, 8x, KQ or a hand like A3o. I think if you bet around $75 or $80 you can get these hands to fold; unless V has something like K Q. As played, I'm checking this river because V isn't going to fold a flush in this spot, and he might even hero call you with TP.

I think you played literally every street opposite than I would.

QJs is worthy of opening, but over 4 limpers, I just overlimp with position, unless I think my raise will get it down to 3-way or HU. That probably takes $20.

Flop: This is not a flop for c-betting 4-ways. Board is wet, but not so wet that LP players will fold marginal made hands, and they are def never folding draws. We don't have to win every hand we raise. Check it back and hope for a non-club K, imo.

Turn: This is kind of a good card to barrel, as this kind of V is always afraid of the flush (if he doesn't have it himself), and may actually fold some of his TP range to a barrel here.

River: Gross. We don't have much SDV at all. Getting V off any flush is unlikely, but his "no-club" range isn't going to even call a small bet. I can see a post-oak bluff here. Something tiny like $40. It won't work super often, but I think your EV from that is higher than a check-back. If he has Ac, hopefully he will raise, and we can muck and say something about "I guess your club is bigger than mine." Having to show down might be bad for your image if you play against this guy often... If he calls, I would just say "your club is good" and see if I can get away with mucking without showing, all the while cursing your luck.

Not a fan of pre. Either limp or make a $5 pot sweetner.

Cbetting this flop into 3 players is bad. Too many Ax hands out there, and you have a decent draw. Check it back. As played, I probably bet the river. The two tank checks make me think v has something like a set here. You can probably get him off it with a 1/2 pot bet.

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Not that It makes a WORLD of difference but we are also double-gutted to an 9 here.

I'm okay with the raise pre, but don't like the cbet in a 4-way pot. Too draw heavy.

However, once you cbet and thin the field to 1 person with whom you have position, I think you have to barrel that turn. Once you reach the river I think it's tough to get a thinking villain to fold any flushed hand. However, I think vill perceives you as being a nit and "respects" you because he thinks you only bet your good hands (folding KK pre-flop to you). This means you could get away with a bluff on the river here, though it would be easier if you had bet the turn imo.

B/f turn. Shove river.

Preflop fine.. I would check flop multiway.. Once u bet the flop, betting turn is suicidal.. Even though Villain is weak betting this river is spew in my opinion.. Not necessarily we need to take down.every pot..

Further more our c bets may be called lightly and floated later and this is what we actually want with our value hands

I play the same stakes and it's.pretty spewy to bluff this particular river once turn goes check thro

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