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1/2 river lead by villian. 1/2 river lead by villian.

01-29-2018 , 10:10 PM
1/2 game 300 max casino game. Table was really good for a while but now has died down.

Villain (400) Younger guy probably in his mid 20's or thereabout. One of the better players in this room that hero has seen. Generally plays a pretty loose style that hero thinks might be too loose at times, tonight is no exception. Example being hand before Villain opened 97hh utg +1 7 handed, ended up getting to showdown against heros KTcc fwiw (slightly loose but being pretty deep I figured KT is doing ok against his fairly wide opening range). Anyways he plays a pretty solid lag style, definitely capable of bluffing but his mistakes that hero has seen were mainly calling too much.

Hero: (Covers) Mid 20's, sitting on almost 1500 at this point, basically from 3 big hands. Anyways hero should have a pretty TAG image overall, Villain probably thinks hero is a TAG who is capable of making moves when the opportunity presents itself (Hero had been caught stabbing at pots in position when villain checked to hero after opening 3-4 ways). Good example is the previous hand in which hero called villains open with KTcc, stabbed at a J87dd flop, and ended up getting to showdown on a TxTx runout with villain ch/c river with 97hh. Questionable river bet by hero, who likes to go for thin value, sometimes too thin.

7 handed Hero has 99 UTG +1, BTN Straddle 5. Folds to villain who raises to 15 (standard size for him in a straddled pot), hero calls and 1 other caller.

Pre seems standard to me

Flop(50) 843r

Checks to hero who bets 30, other caller folds villain calls

Super dry board so I can see villain c/cing with Ax, AA-TT and 88-55 and maybe some other random stuff sometimes due to heros tendency to stab when checked to. Definitely thought it was likely I had the best hand here

Turn (110) 4x completing rainbow.

Check/check

Card doesnt change much, but figured it would be harder to get value from the Ax part of villains range if I bet here, and figured I could get called by that hand more often on the river. Planning on snapping most rivers if led into.

River (110) Ax

Villain leads 80, Hero?

Interesting spot as this smashes Villains range and not so much ours. Whats our play here? What hands are we calling with here? What bluffs (if any) can villain have here? Just seems like a spot where its hard to have a ton of bluffs, but we are pretty high up in our range here. I am concerned about playing more balanced against this villain than just about any other player at 1/2 live.
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01-29-2018 , 10:17 PM
Very tough spot. The A smashes his range but he also could have read your turn check as being the sign of weakness it was. Still, tons of Aces he could have. Im folding
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01-29-2018 , 10:18 PM
Bet the turn by the way
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01-29-2018 , 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by PhillyEagles9
Bet the turn by the way

Reasoning? Doesnt seem like a spot where we can get 3 streets, and I feel like we get looked up lighter if we check turn and bet river vs betting turn.
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01-30-2018 , 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by buggits30
Reasoning? Doesnt seem like a spot where we can get 3 streets, and I feel like we get looked up lighter if we check turn and bet river vs betting turn.
We aren't betting the turn for three streets as we likely check the river if called. It is to protect against what actually happened...an OC to our pair coming OTR and V putting us in a tough spot. Also, the turn is b/f territory, so you are really only risking that bet.
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01-30-2018 , 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by shorn7
We aren't betting the turn for three streets as we likely check the river if called. It is to protect against what actually happened...an OC to our pair coming OTR and V putting us in a tough spot. Also, the turn is b/f territory, so you are really only risking that bet.


Very true, thinking back I like this line better now, as I’ll be betting my air on the turn as well in most cases so I should be betting an overpair for balance. Also helps define his range and keeps us in control of the pot and obv helps us stay out of situations like this. As played im thinking TT, 99 and stronger 8x should be our calling range OTR. This villain should show up with enough 55-77 turned into a bluff and 56 type hands that should justify calling 80 to win 190 with said range.


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01-31-2018 , 10:23 AM
Bet turn to deny equity to hands he'll x/f. I think putting AA-TT in his x/c range on the flop isn't going to be accurate. You just don't see people checking overpairs as the pfr enough at these stakes.
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01-31-2018 , 10:33 AM
Yes, one pair hands often only have 2 streets of value, but which 2 streets we choose is very important and situation dependent. With a small overpair to a low flop board, betting flop and turn is right to charge straights, get value from 8x, and get hands with overcards to fold.
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01-31-2018 , 10:40 AM
With that much history who seems to be thinking at least a little your history matters a lot. Specifically how much AX does villain think is in your range when you check turn? If villain thinks you can c-bet AX and give up on turn then the river hits your range also. If villain thinks you barrel your air and your turn check means a marginal value hand trying to get to river cheaply then the ace is a god card to bluff.
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