I've been on the table for 1 hour and villain was very tight so far.Is sitting on the table with 900€. Hero has around 260€.

He limps in mp, hj calls and hero raises to 12€.Only villain calls.

Flop (29€) J75
Hero bets 15, villains calls.

Turn (59€) J75A
Hero bets 35, villain calls.

River (129€) J75AT
Villain leads 100€

Hero?

What are your cards dude

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Lol sorry i had JJ

I would shove

If he is tight he shouldn't have gotten to this river with KQ here, and AA would have raised preflop given two chances.

If you were deeper it would change things, but if you only have 100 or so behind I think it's a shove. We're ahead of all the other sets and also some two pair combinations and since the flush draw missed were really only losing to 89, which was double gutted OTF.

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Clear flat imo.

So first of all, if he has a bluff it doesn't matter whether we call or raise, all that matters is what made hands he might have. He is claiming here to have made his hand on the river, and given how wet the board is before that, he's not going to show up here with like a set of 5s that check called twice.

So what could he have made on the river? He won't have AT, that can't call the flop. ATdd is possible if he's tight enough to limp that pre, but then I'd have to give him KQdd too; I just won't bother with either. There are 3 combos of JT, that's possible, then there's 4 combos of 89s. I think that's about it for a tight guy? So there's more combos of 89s, which we lose to, than JT which we beat. Moreover, JT may well fold if we raise, that's a tough call to make with a bad two pair. Mostly if our raise gets action it'll be from 89. Therefore, flat.

I like the flop betsize. It's hard for a limpcaller to have something that will call a bigger bet and it's hard for him to have a draw that a half-pot bet isn't enough to overcharge.

Anyone else bet more on the turn? I think an ace or 2 pair will call a $50-$55 turn bet.

River is an easy shove with your stack size - if he has any hand that beats you it's just bad luck for the reasons already mentioned, and if *you* have *him* beat, your shove is only about an additional $110, so he's not folding anything he put $100 with to begin with.

EDIT: @ChrisV why don't you think a tight villain would take this line with 55, 77 or TT?

If we flop top set on this flop, and don't want all the money in, why are we there?

(Not much of an answer combinatorially speaking, but whatever.)

Can people play pocket AA this poorly? Yes.

Can they bink runner runner? Yes.

Does the best hand always hold up? No.

Sorry you lost.

I would have too.

TT even if he played it that way up until the turn he's going to fold the turn. 55 and 77, you have him facing a bet on the turn on a board of J75A and he.... just flats and then donks the river? He is obviously going to checkraise the turn, both to protect his hand and to get stacks in. Flatting turn and donking river is a good way to deliver free cards to your opponent and simultaneously guarantee that stacks don't go in.

55 and 77 are only 6 combos in any case and he would:

- Probably checkraise the flop
- Checkraise the turn 99.9% of the time
- If he somehow avoided doing all that because he is obsessed with trap lines, then he'd continue the trap by checking river.

When you start with only 6 combos and navigate your way through three streets where he does something super unlikely on each street, you end up with close to zero chance that he has those hands.

I honestly think this flat is not even close, I think if you raise and get action you are going to be beaten like 80+% of the time. JT needs be to heavily discounted, many tight players will fold the turn and many will not limp-call JTo (and there is at most one combo of JTs available).

89s is the only hand I can think of where this is exactly how I would expect a tight-passive player to play the hand on every street. Every other hand needs to be discounted because other options are available. For instance, with ATdd he might raise preflop and might lead turn.

I shoved and he had 98c

I thought that he never has KQ because he would raise pf. And i thought that 98 is also really unlikely because i didnt think he would limp-call it oop.

Fairly standard hand, a bit of a cooler. I used to think a set was the nuts on the river as well (you can maybe tell by my nickname)

Next time size up your bets. No reason to slow play top set on this board against an opponent who's deep. AJ isn't folding and bottom sets aren't folding either. We want to shovel the maximum amount of money possible.