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Old 03-08-2017, 08:06 PM   #1
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1/2 river check raise

Villain - middle age guy, been quite active 3 betting and gets quite sticky. Has ~300. We cover.

Utg+1 raise to 7.
2 calls.
Villain calls in hj.
Hero calls on btn w/ QTo.

Flop Tx 7c 3c.
Checks to hero, bets 15.
All fold to villain who calls.

Turn 4x.

Villain checks, hero bets 30. Villain calls.

River 3x.

Villain checks, hero bets 65.

Villain thinks for about 30 seconds, then raises to 155.

Hero?
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Old 03-08-2017, 08:28 PM   #2
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Re: 1/2 river check raise

Sticky is not the same as c/r river bluffy. I fold. I also probably don't bet turn. If I do, I definitely don't bet river. What do we think is calling three streets that TPGK beats?
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Old 03-08-2017, 08:38 PM   #3
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Re: 1/2 river check raise

I don't like your call preflop tbh. I don't like your turn bet either.

If you check turn I think you can bet small on some rivers.

The way this hand went down, very easy fold. C/R on the river is almost always a huge hand, and you have a very marginal one.
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Old 03-08-2017, 08:59 PM   #4
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Re: 1/2 river check raise

I would call. It's a $90 call to win more than $400. We need to be right less than 25% of the time. What do we think he plays this way for value? Is he really checking sets three times on a board with a flush draw? Is he really check-raising a better ten on the river? And even if he is, he has a lot of missed draws that could do this.

That said, i don't like the bet on the river. What are you hoping to get called by? I would bet flop and turn to charge the draws and then check back the river. As played, I would call
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Old 03-08-2017, 08:59 PM   #5
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Re: 1/2 river check raise

Turn bet is fine. Check back river. Fold now. That looks like a pretty nutted raise size. If 89 or missed clubs was bluffing I'd expect them to go bigger.
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Old 03-08-2017, 09:05 PM   #6
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Re: 1/2 river check raise

Thanks guys. Yeah I agree the biggest mistake was betting the river. I was very close to checking, but thought I could squeeze some value out of a weak 10 or 7. Too thin.
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Old 03-08-2017, 09:22 PM   #7
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Re: 1/2 river check raise

As a general rule, late street action in live low stakes game is a sign of strength. River check raises are almost always for value, there's really no way that one pair is good here.

Also- I'd probably 3 bet pre flop most of the time. Make it $35-$40 and take it down right then and there, or at least get it head's up or 3 way then apply pressure while in position.

But if we're flatting pre and betting this flop when checked to, then sizing should be more. $15 into $35 is simply too small.

As played, fold river.
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