1/2, nine-handed. Most of the table is weak/passive (limp/fold and limp/call happy) with the exception one very good player.

V (~$250) MAWG, LP: Really bad player. Limp/calls almost always. Will call a $30 bet w/ $50 behind and fold on the next street. Waits for AA to limp/raise or limp/shove and prays, etc. As tight/passive as it gets, but bets if he thinks he has the best hand.

H (~$250) MAWW, BTN: Tight and aggressive. Raising more in position than the rest of the table, almost never limps in, folds pre more than almost anyone (including from SB), has 3bet a couple of times. Raises/bets are usually respected. Hasn’t been caught bluffing and usually has a decent/good hand at showdown.

One limper, folds to V who limps, H raises to $15 w/ Jc9c, folds, V calls

Flop (~$30): AcQc9d

V checks, H bets $20, V calls (V has an A or Q, two pair, maybe a flush draw or straight draw)

Turn (~$70): AcQc9d Qh

V checks, H bets $50, V calls (should I check behind here?)

River (~$170): AcQc9dQh 8c

V bets $75, Hero? Fold, flat, shove for last $90?

Pre i think isolating this particular player with a decent wide range is good, so i like our 15 isolation raise pre with a suited gapper that plays well in position.

Flopbet is fine too with heaps of equity, we bet both for value and building a pot when we improve on later streets+ we can also get better hands to fold like Qx that dont always want to continue.

Turn i think is a pretty clear check behind as his range is weighted alot towards top pairs or second pair that have now improved to trips. We still have showdown value against gutters, and flushdraws without a pair type of hands- check back and realize your equity instead of bloating the pot even further imo.

River: all you can eat baby. I dont love it when tight/passive leads this,but still gonna shove with these stacksizes and his 75 bet is not the strongest sizing either. But still gonna jam and get calls from trips he cant get away from, J10 got there+ some amounts of smaller flushes that he definetely dont get away from. If he got a boat somehow or the one bigger flush that beats us,nice hand reload.

Yeah I definitely agree with check-behind on the turn. You're just getting called by better way too often here and I don't really see what floated the flop besides a smaller club draw that you're ahead of at this point (and you don't want a smaller club draw to fold). You have equity denial vs. JT/TT and better 9x pairs but it's just not worth it.

As played, I think shove or call are pretty equal here. Had you checked the turn, it would be a whole different scenario to consider.

Check turn and take our equity to river. He's likely not folding an A or Q, and we're definitely not getting value from worse, so don't understand our bet.

As played, call river bet.

Agree on check turn. Would suck to ger Cr's and lose our equity.

I think the river is a clear jam. I am having trouble finding that many boats in V's range, and the only realistic flush we lose to is KTcc. I think against a "bad player", this is a weaker flush or Qx most of the time (I guess real boat hand I am afraid of is Q8 as we block Q9).

Prob just jam against a player who likely has severe relative hand strength awareness along with the fact that such players cry call their last $90 pretty often with hands that have 0 equity facing a raise.

If he limp/calls a lot, there are tons of combo's of Qx and lower flushes that get here. Clear shove imo.

And yeah, check back turn. We have good equity/reasonable SDV and we can't really call a x/r.

Did you ever consider checking back the flop. You block flush draws and most straight draws. Had you checked you would be able to continue on nearly all turns if V leads. Even though it is important to semi bluff to build a pot when you do hit. Its important to balance out your checking range and this seems like a pretty good hand to do it with, that being said leading flop is not a bad play at all considering how passive he is. As played im jamming river all day.Theres just too many hands you beat that you could get value from.

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He has a flush almost always. Do you want value from the smaller flushes OR are you that scared of the king high flush? I say shove

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Pf and flop are fine. On the turn, I'd check as it keeps your range wider. You could have a FH, FD or air. By betting, your range is capped at trips, but most likely TP. Super passive players can't imagine making two bets on a FD.

I'd take a minute and think about your comment that he only bets if he thinks he has the best hand on the river. Is he thinking that his 9 high flush is the "best hand" on this board? Probably not. Quad queens are the nuts and a strong hand is a FH. As you played this, I'd make a crying call here. A raise is just burning money. Nothing worse will call and the king high flush will call.

Turn bet is bad. Check behind. Obvious fistpump jam otr, he will almost never fold worse flushes, JT, and Qx.

+1

He did lead out on a paired board. I would call. I also agree checking the turn since he's not likely to fold.

Check turn, shove river

I usually get irritated by people who just advocate for running over people all the time: bet/raise/jam/jam/jam/jam/jam/jam but in this case I think his point is warranted.

I originally thought call or shove were pretty equal here, and I still think that's pretty close to being the case, but as I re-read the description of our V here, I'm leaning towards shove for value. This guy based on his description has lots of hands that can be betting here for worse. OP specifically states he's a really bad player, although I hope that opinion was created before this hand occurred and not as a result of what happened at showdown or else my position here might be different.

I deleted the post you quoted here, because while I still think this is a jam against basically any opponent who takes this line, my 80% figure may be too ambitious. I just don't understand the OP. Villain limp/calls "almost always" but then is characterized as "TIGHT/passive." If he is actually TIGHT, playing 20% of hands or less, then that cuts down on the number of worse combos he can have.

Yes, he's tight passive. He is limp calling with face cards, AX, pocket pairs. He's not really one to play suited connectors below JT or maybe T9. If he raises pre, it's a big hand (AA/KK and QQ), and it's rare -- usually he limp/raises or limp/shoves if he has a small stack. Honestly, I've seen him call a pre-flop raise. Call a $30 bet on a J-high flop, then fold for his last $32 on a Q turn -- they ran out the deck and the river was a J, and you could see it killed him.

Ok, well retract my previous post then. That sounds like a pretty clear call if you're weighing him heavily away from smaller flushes. You'd only be targeting Qx hands in that case that haven't filled up and that would be an awfully thin shove.

Oh I see. This changes a lot. So you're saying he folds decent hands a lot, pre and post. Ok, I had a totally different player in mind based on how I understood the OP.

Better Hands: 99 (one combo), AQ (six combos), KcTc (one combo)
Potential Worse Hands: KQ (eight combos), maybe JTs (three combos) - you haven't described his chasing tendencies, QJs and QTs (two each)

I guess just flat, since you describe him making absurd folds getting 4:1.

RESULTS:

I like pre and flop, but I think you guys are right that I should have checked the turn. I thought maybe he'd fold an A and if he called, I might have outs. If he shoved turn, I could easily fold, but it's so unlike him. Once he called the turn, I put him on a Q. I loved the river and considered shoving, but I wasn't sure he'd call with worse -- although trips is a pretty big hand to him, and since he'd never be there with a flush, I'm not sure he thought I would be -- I should have realized that. I flatted and he mucked. Could have made another $90 there, I'm pretty sure!

If he mucked before you showed, he wasn't calling a shove anyway. But I still think it is the best line.

I showed immediately. He was obviously miffed and thought he had it, but didn't show. The only people I "make" show are the jacka$$es.

Oh ok sorry, I misunderstood. I thought he open mucked when you called so he was bluffing or something.