1/2 150 blinds just sat down, btn 56s, most people have 100 blinds

V1 in mp (lots of history) tends to play passively post, however pre he probably bluffs 30-40% of the time with hands like J2 and will fold to 3 bets (I doubt the table knows this)

V2 in lj I don’t know anything about
Blinds have limp squeezed in ep twice since I sat down

1 limp, v1 raises to 7, two people flat

I decide to raise to 30

Blinds fold
V1, v2 call


Flop
K88r
Checks around

Turn
4

V2 bets 20 into 90
I float
And we go heads up

River
2

He checks
I bet 100 into 130

Thoughts? I’m trying to get him off a weak K and worse hands

1). Way simpler if you use $$ instead of a mix of $$ and bb’s.
2). 3b bigger if you’re going 3b. I wouldn’t 3b here.
3). If you 3b, then cbet. Rep a credible story. AK would bet the flop.
4). Turn could be a spot for a c/r bluff, not float.
5). Weird line OTR but probably works a fair amount of time on that run out.

Definitely continue on the flop and even the turn alot of the times. That is way stronger than checking back the flop. You realistically only do that with KK

I'm on board with the 3b, just larger sizing to pickup dead $.

Flop - continue with 1/3 PSB.

As played, that turn sizing looks like a pp rather than KX, so I'd raise and expect to take it down. If called, probably shutting down unimproved.

This hand is pretty badly played. Preflop is OK if you know what you're doing post flop, but post flop is really really bad. Villain may have folded the river if he had some marginal hand, but that doesnt mean the hand was played correctly. Badly played hands that end up well are actually a really bad thing because they reinforce bad play and build bad habits.

So not cbetting was a mistake, part of the reason I didn’t is because I think I would check a lot of strong K on the flop.

The pot is bloated and the board is paired so I really only want to go 2 streets with AK whereas my 8s I’m always betting flop because V can have more Kx.

Either way I hate it when I take weird lines after I’ve just sat down because I need some knowledge of what my opponents to play well.

Do your opponents think you’re mostly checking a K OTF? I like that you’re going for it though, don’t see too many 3/4 PSB on the river with air in 1/2

Given what he called with and how quickly he called, he doesn’t think I have any K here.

So it’s a really profitable line for value, but that’s because the line is so odd so it’s a really bad bluff

Did he flick in the call with a PP or did he really own your soul with A high?

Flop is a range bet. I’d just call pre though. As played probably bet smaller OTR since a big bet really polarizes your range to strong Kx/air.

That's because nobody raises preflop and then checks TP. Checking Kx on this flop is a good line, but because nobody does it, nobody will ever believe you did it. If you're going to rep a hand you dont have, you have to play it like THEY would play it.

^^^This is on point.

Ok thanks for all the input. It was a pretty ugly hand by me.

Preflop
I could see 65s being an open, but you really need enough fold equity to justify it. That could be preflop fold equity (limp-folding), postflop, or more likely a mix. I have a hard time believing you'd have enough at 1/2. Especially multiway. People tend to call too often and the generic formula for beating 1/2 is to just value bet a ton and only bluff very selectively.

Flop
I think that the cbetting is questionable. If Villains are limp-calling with about 20% of hands and continuing with all pairs, you only have about 30% fold equity. If you were semibluffing with some sort of draw, maybe you could justify it, but you don't really have any equity. In general, I think that in bluffing multiway at loose games, conditions need to be pretty pristine.

Turn/river
I could see a float being good here. One thing I've learned from Ed Miller is to pay attention to bet sizing tells. Such a small turn bet seems pretty weak and like a solid opportunity to float. And I like the float instead of the raise because you are last to act and you can use his river action to gain more info. Since he checked the river, yeah, I could see the bluff! It's a tough spot to tell because it's sort of a non-standard situation where you don't have a great history.