Hero has LAG image with $1100. Late 20s, hip. Villain has LAGy image, recently sat down, not too outlandish though, 40 yr old black guy.

$600 effective stacks.

Hero's been playing all day and is about to go home. Action at the table has been pretty stupid/ridiculous and Hero's caught up in it, running hot (but also tired from playing all day and planned to go home 15 minutes earlier). Limps Q6 from MP. Gets raised small somewhere to like 8. 5 callers.

$45 5-way flop comes: QJ6

Checks to Hero who bets $35. Villain raises to $140. Hero??

Fold pre the first time.
Fold pre the second time around.

Meh.
I'd prolly pitch it on the flop.
We are OOP and he can make our life difficult on almost all turn cards.
I'm not a fan of playing for 300bb stacks here in a mostly limped pot.

I'd imagine a LAG 3bets pre with QQ, JJ, not wanting to playing it against four players. Shove or fold. I lean towards a shove. Only 6 combos of QJ and 1 combo of 66 beat you if we can take out QQ, JJ from his range. Plus, his huge sizing would discount sets Aton. There are lots of draws he could have. 6xhh, Axhh, T9hh, KThh, K9hh, 89hh, AThh. Shove, I'd expect you to be a 60% or so favorite against his range.

Rip it in.

What kind of LAG limps Q6?

Fold Pre

Call now

LOL at Hip...what does that even mean?

Big raise smells like a drawing hand. Raise to 300 and call shove or ship turn no matter what comes. Seems wrong being limped but there are lots of draws you have beat.

fold pre, fold pre.

Did V check/raise or just raise? Either way, I probably just let this go. Terrible hand and not one I'm willing to go broke with. I would have folded pre, though (both times).

I hate that you called pre, but now that we're in this sticky spot I'd just shove on this guy. Odds are he's on a heart draw or a good Q. we're just praying he didn't hit top 2. Which he would raise this way with..... Tough spot...... Fold pre dammit

lol I don't even want to finish this hand.

Hero calls. Heads up. Turn comes Q.

Hero's first to act...

Check or bet is fine. I probably check and hope he bets into me, but it's a little scary if he does. I'd go ahead and raise him if he does bet. If he checks behind, I'd lead river. I just can't imagine what he's calling a bet with on this turn unless he has the case Q with an A or K or AhXh (maybe).

Best hero description ever. Based on your assessment of your own hipness you, my friend, deserve to win it all.


Regarding the hand:
Fold pre or open, limping is against my religion.


AP:

Flop: In my view re-poping it to his AI>call>fold. Calling I don't like as there are a ton of turn cards we would hate to see. Fwiw this doesn't feel like a monster to me, feels like a big draw so I'd focus on getting as much in now as possible.

Turn: The best max value line I can think of is leading turn for 100 in an attempt to rep a one pair hand, giving him a chance to hit his draw OTR.

I don't think gii is best here since it folds out all but boats/AQ/KQ me thinks - which I think are unlikely anyways.

New definition of LAG:

-Will play any suited or connected cards pre-flop, but passively limping or calling someone else's raises.

-Flop what most consider as high equity hands, then start betting or semi-bluffing.

-Show down two cards that are outside of top 10% pre-flop hand selection range.

And there you have it, a loose aggressive player in LLSNL.

Well, I'm no Londoner...

You're no Londoner...

Anyway, Turn goes check, check.

River comes 6x. I want to say the flush hit, but I don't even remember for sure. I was so brain drained at this point. I checked and he bet out about 200. I gave it a moment and jammed, feeling philanthropic. He snaps and shows QJ for the nuts.

I think the line here is bet/call. Check (Check). Check/Call. Pretty simple in my mind. Disagree?

There is nothing more miserable than a ride home after doing something stupid right before youre done. I would be more likely to make hero laydowns given that i was getting ready to go home. Given Vs description and the fact that there were 5 limpers, I wouldve def. laid it down pre and then hesitantly on the flop and went home. TAGs dont play Q6 pre suited or not unless your playing sub optimal which is a sign to get up and leave.

lol +1. It was, indeed, miserable. Against this Villain I think I'm coolered. I can possibly find a fold OTR along the same line of thinking as you describe above. Against another V I like your line for sure.

But coming up with reasons to call and donating chips is a definite leak in my game. I'm too loose without established reads in order to be. I think I definitely lose money in the long run this way.