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Originally Posted by Willyoman
Don't love calling pre.
4-bet pre and don't fold.
You're in HJ and villain is in SB. You don't love his 5-bet shove range, but you're doing just fine against his 3-bet and fine enough against his shove.
As played with a call pre, yeah, you played it fine. But what's really your plan with a call? Planning to peel one on most flops? Play fit or fold?
If villain had JJ, he'd c-bet AT5, and we'd fold the best hand.
If he had AQ, which I think he will definitely 3-bet over a HJ open, he'll c-bet KT2, an you'll probably fold, too.
It's cool that we have position, but QQ is a monster here - but you're going to lose post-flop if villain makes a hand, has a hand, or pretends to make a hand.
Villain's pre-flop 3-bet range from SB facing your HJ open (you're TAG, right, and your LP open is very wide and villain is paying attention) could be (guess mode here):
ATs+, AJo+, TT+, KQ
You crush that. Again, you don't love the range he continues with when you 4-bet, but you're still doing just fine. Even against JJ+, AK you have ~50%.
Calling pre is probably less profitable and it outs you in incredibly difficult post-flop situations. This hand plays itself pre-flop.
Sorry for late reply and thanks for the input.
You are right, when I 4bet/call pre. we have ~50% (being against JJ+, AK) but we don't get any value from the bottom of his range that will Cbet almost any flop.
I plan on calling almost any flop. (Even good) players don't second barrel bluff very often OOP in a 3bet pot.
If the board comes 962 5 all the money will go in anyway.
So I think there a little more value in flatting here as we obtain the same as 4b/call plus some value from bluff Cbets.