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1/2 QQ UTG faces flop raise on dry board 1/2 QQ UTG faces flop raise on dry board

04-24-2017 , 10:35 AM
I've been on a break even run since January and I'm trying to figure out if there are certain spots I'm playing differently, mainly raising/betting for thin value and trying to balance that against a tendency to spew. Below is hand 2 of 2 from a recent session I'm interested in hearing thoughts on.

Saturday night at Borgata. Place is a zoo as it's tourney series time. As such, the 1/2 tables are playing a little tougher than usual. My table is no different, containing 3-4 seemingly winning players

Hero ($200): Sitting for 90 minutes and has been very tight as he gets a feel for the table. Probably seen as a TAG/Borderline Rock by the younger, more aggressive and active players. Hasn't shown down many hands.

V ($350): 20s white guy. Not positionally aware and i haven't seen him bluff post flop as of yet. I've seen him raise hands as week as KTo UTG 10 handed and call rather loosely in all positions as well. He was stacked a few minutes ago on a cooler but doesn't appear to be on tilt.

Staddle is up, Hero is UTG with QQ and raises to 16, V calls in MP as does CO and B, all else fold.

Pot: $71
Flop: J64
Hero bets $40, V raises to $95, fold, fold, Hero?
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04-24-2017 , 10:46 AM
Probably just going to cram it in here given stack sizes.

Or call/shove the turn.
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04-24-2017 , 10:49 AM
With this SPR i am getting it in here. Pot is 71$ regarding to your OP, and you have like 184$ behind heading to the flop.

I am not loving the situation particularly his sizing, but i think we se enough strong J combos here due to his wide callingrange pre that its okay to stackoff. A guy who raises K-10 off from UTG and tells us he have poor fundamentals could raise at least KJ/AJ on this flop, possibly even wider with his 5-7 suited or 5-3 suited combos.
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04-24-2017 , 11:03 AM
Shove, not close. If he has a set, then oh well.

That's an eyebrow-raising raise size you have there. Is it standard for the game? I mean you got 3 callers, so it's hard for it to be bad.
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04-24-2017 , 11:08 AM
Well played, now jam. If he flopped a set, so be it. Given stack sizes he can be committing with top pair type hands too.
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04-24-2017 , 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
Shove, not close. If he has a set, then oh well.

That's an eyebrow-raising raise size you have there. Is it standard for the game? I mean you got 3 callers, so it's hard for it to be bad.
$16 seems fine first to act in a straddled pot with a premium.
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04-24-2017 , 11:25 AM
Raise size is fine, if not a touch too small in most of the games that I play in when it's straddled.
I would often expect to get 2 - 5 callers for $16.

For those saying shove, why do you want to shove as opposed to calling and gii ott?
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04-24-2017 , 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by iraisetoomuch
Raise size is fine, if not a touch too small in most of the games that I play in when it's straddled.
I would often expect to get 2 - 5 callers for $16.

For those saying shove, why do you want to shove as opposed to calling and gii ott?


Villain is going with his entire range if we get it in on flop. Turn could kill our action (turn pairs board and he mucks Straight draw or ace turn when he has KJ or something)
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04-24-2017 , 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by iraisetoomuch
Raise size is fine, if not a touch too small in most of the games that I play in when it's straddled.
I would often expect to get 2 - 5 callers for $16.

For those saying shove, why do you want to shove as opposed to calling and gii ott?
I feel completely committed. If in position I'd probably just flat, but if we flat flop we either have to lead/shove turn (which is a weird line) or check turn and hope he bets for us. If he has some weird draw like 53, he could just check behind turn, realize his equity and fold blank rivers. If he has Jx, he won't be very happy if an A, K or Q hits, unless they make two pair for him, and could find a fold. Flatting flop is better if he has complete air that's bluffing, but even then he could decide to give up anyway.
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