1/2 NL - 8 handed
Hero is eff stack ~200 lost a recent pot and hadn't added on yet

MP: open limps (LAG borderline whale, down like 4bi but just there to have fun has got lucky a few times with odd 2p etc., has called down a 3b pot with Q high)
CO (V1): limps (tilted by guy mentioned above getting lucky a few times and getting 3b by same guy for random amounts a few times etc., generally decent player but happens to be tilted currently)
BTN (Hero): raise to 15 QJss
SB (V2): (older guy but not typical OMC, decent player) calls 15
MP sadly folds
CO call

Flop ( $48 )
K94 all spades
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Checks to Hero
Hero bet $30
Both call

Turn ( $138 )
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7s
Checks to Hero
Hero?

Welcome to the forum, OP.

Weird spot. You'd have to think the bare As is high in their calling ranges OTF. I think I check this one, as any bet commits us, but is almost always the nut flush.

You didn't get raised on the flop, so I highly discount 2 pair, sets, or worse flushes. So likely hands V have are pairs and draws, with one of them likely having the As.

You have the QsJs and the Ks and 9s are on board. So it's very unlikely Hero will get action from a worse flush.

You have to check the turn, and call a reasonable bet.

Check turn especially with the Js, and a small chance of coolering the As. You can value bet if they check river to you, or call a bet.

Thanks for the feedback y'all

+1

Check back turn, evaluate river - likely folding to a bet, betting small if checked to.

Not the best turn card after both call turn and blocking everything down to Ts. I’d check back on turn as well. Feel the question is what is river and what do V2 and V1 do, especially if they both check.

We have the effective nuts after everyone checks twice. Sure someone could be getting tricky with the As, but’s it’s unlikely even before we see everyone check. Checking back river is really MUBSy.

Not referring to checking it, if you’re referring to me. I meant how much is a good value bet on a 4 flush river on this runout. Facing a river bet or having to decide how much to bet if checked to are more interesting than the turn check.

I’m borderline on preflop. Problem is that these players don’t seem like the kind of limp Fold a ton. We do have a decent hand though so we can raise for value. I think at 1/2 I’d want bigger sizes though, so I’ll be raising bigger. I like to raise limpers with a value heavy range, and to a size where they do fold sometimes, unless I’m against some special kind of player (I’ve raised single limpers to 100+ at 5/10 NL before because why not, they’re calling).

I’d go bigger on flop. Like the As is calling any reasonable bet. Like if we bet 45, one call, pot is ~ 140 with about a PSB left where we can jam it in. At 30 it’s kind of awkward

Turn is a clear check. Having the Qs and Js hurts a ton here because that limits spade combos we can get called by. I do still think I like my hand, since I’d expect the As to donk a nonzero amount, but I’m not convinced we have the winner.

I probably bluffcatch any amount on the river and bet like 90 if checked to on the river as played.


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I agree, I think I could have gone at least 20 or so maybe 25 pre as the main guy I wanted to get in with was pretty much limp calling any amount though he did fold this time. Also would have made the stacks a bit less awkward later on. AP I think sizing up the flop a bit would have been better for the reasons you laid out. Thanks for the feedback

I misread your post. I thought you said you'd check *river* also, but I see you said the turn, sorry.

xb turn
try to river Ts

X Turn
Evaluate river action.