I don't view it as nitty, rather, I view it as a sign that the player may actually have some idea about what to do at poker. I see plenty of aggressive players who can fold their SB for $1 and, trust me, it isn't hurting their action.

And I assume someone that always completes is a rec fish

Bingo. Me too.

I also see people folding SB as a sign they (might) know what they are doing.

Maybe some of you can find enough equity in here to make the PF calls worth it.

Output is from Odds Oracle Professional. Here's how we do on the flop - 56ss vs. 2 villains with about 35% ranges (limpers) and the raising guy I gave 16% (66+,A7s+,A9o+,KTs+,KJo+,QTs+,QJo,JTs,JTo)

I've highlighted what I think are desirable flops.

To start we have this

62.5877% NOTHING
13.2795% THIRDPAIR
14.9463% SECONDPAIR
2.7159% TOPPAIR
1.6583% BOTTOMTWO
0.7157% TOPTWO
1.5853% TRIPS
1.5737% STRAIGHT
0.7800% FLUSH
0.1174% FULLHOUSE
0.0149% QUADS
0.0252% STRAIGHTFLUSH

What about flush draws?

53.8314% NOTHING | NO FLUSH DRAW
8.7564% NOTHING | FLUSH DRAW

12.4385% THIRDPAIR | NO FLUSH DRAW
0.8410% THIRDPAIR | FLUSH DRAW

14.0956% SECONDPAIR | NO FLUSH DRAW
0.8507% SECONDPAIR | FLUSH DRAW

2.5922% TOPPAIR | NO FLUSH DRAW
0.1237% TOPPAIR | FLUSH DRAW

1.6583% BOTTOMTWO | NO FLUSH DRAW
0.7157% TOPTWO | NO FLUSH DRAW
1.5853% TRIPS | NO FLUSH DRAW

1.3396% STRAIGHT | NO FLUSH DRAW
0.2341% STRAIGHT | FLUSH DRAW

0.7800% FLUSH | ALREADY HAVE/BEAT FLUSH
0.1174% FULLHOUSE | ALREADY HAVE/BEAT FLUSH
0.0149% QUADS | ALREADY HAVE/BEAT FLUSH
0.0252% STRAIGHTFLUSH | ALREADY HAVE/BEAT FLUSH

What about straight draws?

39.0121% NOTHING | STRAIGHT OUTS: 0
14.5669% NOTHING | STRAIGHT OUTS: 1-4
9.0087% NOTHING | STRAIGHT OUTS: 5-8

11.5948% THIRDPAIR | STRAIGHT OUTS: 0
1.1094% THIRDPAIR | STRAIGHT OUTS: 1-4
0.5753% THIRDPAIR | STRAIGHT OUTS: 5-8

13.0951% SECONDPAIR | STRAIGHT OUTS: 0
1.2171% SECONDPAIR | STRAIGHT OUTS: 1-4
0.6342% SECONDPAIR | STRAIGHT OUTS: 5-8

0.7467% TOPPAIR | STRAIGHT OUTS: 0
1.3065% TOPPAIR | STRAIGHT OUTS: 1-4
0.6627% TOPPAIR | STRAIGHT OUTS: 5-8

1.6583% BOTTOMTWO | STRAIGHT OUTS: 0
0.7157% TOPTWO | STRAIGHT OUTS: 0
1.5853% TRIPS | STRAIGHT OUTS: 0

1.5737% STRAIGHT | ALREADY HAVE/BEAT STRAIGHT
0.7800% FLUSH | ALREADY HAVE/BEAT STRAIGHT
0.1174% FULLHOUSE | ALREADY HAVE/BEAT STRAIGHT
0.0149% QUADS | ALREADY HAVE/BEAT STRAIGHT
0.0252% STRAIGHTFLUSH | ALREADY HAVE/BEAT STRAIGHT

What about straight outs, flush outs, and backdoor flush outs?

14.7613% NOTHING | NO FLUSH DRAW | NO BACKDOOR FLUSH DRAW | STRAIGHT OUTS: 0
5.5543% NOTHING | NO FLUSH DRAW | NO BACKDOOR FLUSH DRAW | STRAIGHT OUTS: 1-4
3.4095% NOTHING | NO FLUSH DRAW | NO BACKDOOR FLUSH DRAW | STRAIGHT OUTS: 5-8
18.8278% NOTHING | NO FLUSH DRAW | BACKDOOR FLUSH DRAW | STRAIGHT OUTS: 0
6.9700% NOTHING | NO FLUSH DRAW | BACKDOOR FLUSH DRAW | STRAIGHT OUTS: 1-4
4.3084% NOTHING | NO FLUSH DRAW | BACKDOOR FLUSH DRAW | STRAIGHT OUTS: 5-8
5.4230% NOTHING | FLUSH DRAW | NO BACKDOOR FLUSH DRAW | STRAIGHT OUTS: 0
2.0426% NOTHING | FLUSH DRAW | NO BACKDOOR FLUSH DRAW | STRAIGHT OUTS: 1-4
1.2908% NOTHING | FLUSH DRAW | NO BACKDOOR FLUSH DRAW | STRAIGHT OUTS: 5-8

5.8191% THIRDPAIR | NO FLUSH DRAW | NO BACKDOOR FLUSH DRAW | STRAIGHT OUTS: 0
0.5583% THIRDPAIR | NO FLUSH DRAW | NO BACKDOOR FLUSH DRAW | STRAIGHT OUTS: 1-4
0.2978% THIRDPAIR | NO FLUSH DRAW | NO BACKDOOR FLUSH DRAW | STRAIGHT OUTS: 5-8
5.0466% THIRDPAIR | NO FLUSH DRAW | BACKDOOR FLUSH DRAW | STRAIGHT OUTS: 0
0.4765% THIRDPAIR | NO FLUSH DRAW | BACKDOOR FLUSH DRAW | STRAIGHT OUTS: 1-4
0.2402% THIRDPAIR | NO FLUSH DRAW | BACKDOOR FLUSH DRAW | STRAIGHT OUTS: 5-8
0.7291% THIRDPAIR | FLUSH DRAW | NO BACKDOOR FLUSH DRAW | STRAIGHT OUTS: 0
0.0746% THIRDPAIR | FLUSH DRAW | NO BACKDOOR FLUSH DRAW | STRAIGHT OUTS: 1-4
0.0373% THIRDPAIR | FLUSH DRAW | NO BACKDOOR FLUSH DRAW | STRAIGHT OUTS: 5-8

6.5497% SECONDPAIR | NO FLUSH DRAW | NO BACKDOOR FLUSH DRAW | STRAIGHT OUTS: 0
0.6032% SECONDPAIR | NO FLUSH DRAW | NO BACKDOOR FLUSH DRAW | STRAIGHT OUTS: 1-4
0.3045% SECONDPAIR | NO FLUSH DRAW | NO BACKDOOR FLUSH DRAW | STRAIGHT OUTS: 5-8
5.8145% SECONDPAIR | NO FLUSH DRAW | BACKDOOR FLUSH DRAW | STRAIGHT OUTS: 0
0.5386% SECONDPAIR | NO FLUSH DRAW | BACKDOOR FLUSH DRAW | STRAIGHT OUTS: 1-4
0.2851% SECONDPAIR | NO FLUSH DRAW | BACKDOOR FLUSH DRAW | STRAIGHT OUTS: 5-8
0.7309% SECONDPAIR | FLUSH DRAW | NO BACKDOOR FLUSH DRAW | STRAIGHT OUTS: 0
0.0752% SECONDPAIR | FLUSH DRAW | NO BACKDOOR FLUSH DRAW | STRAIGHT OUTS: 1-4
0.0446% SECONDPAIR | FLUSH DRAW | NO BACKDOOR FLUSH DRAW | STRAIGHT OUTS: 5-8

0.3767% TOPPAIR | NO FLUSH DRAW | NO BACKDOOR FLUSH DRAW | STRAIGHT OUTS: 0
0.6684% TOPPAIR | NO FLUSH DRAW | NO BACKDOOR FLUSH DRAW | STRAIGHT OUTS: 1-4
0.3327% TOPPAIR | NO FLUSH DRAW | NO BACKDOOR FLUSH DRAW | STRAIGHT OUTS: 5-8
0.3700% TOPPAIR | NO FLUSH DRAW | BACKDOOR FLUSH DRAW | STRAIGHT OUTS: 0
0.5565% TOPPAIR | NO FLUSH DRAW | BACKDOOR FLUSH DRAW | STRAIGHT OUTS: 1-4
0.2878% TOPPAIR | NO FLUSH DRAW | BACKDOOR FLUSH DRAW | STRAIGHT OUTS: 5-8
0.0816% TOPPAIR | FLUSH DRAW | NO BACKDOOR FLUSH DRAW | STRAIGHT OUTS: 1-4
0.0422% TOPPAIR | FLUSH DRAW | NO BACKDOOR FLUSH DRAW | STRAIGHT OUTS: 5-8

1.1027% BOTTOMTWO | NO FLUSH DRAW | NO BACKDOOR FLUSH DRAW | STRAIGHT OUTS: 0
0.5556% BOTTOMTWO | NO FLUSH DRAW | BACKDOOR FLUSH DRAW | STRAIGHT OUTS: 0
0.4758% TOPTWO | NO FLUSH DRAW | NO BACKDOOR FLUSH DRAW | STRAIGHT OUTS: 0
0.2399% TOPTWO | NO FLUSH DRAW | BACKDOOR FLUSH DRAW | STRAIGHT OUTS: 0

1.1870% TRIPS | NO FLUSH DRAW | NO BACKDOOR FLUSH DRAW | STRAIGHT OUTS: 0
0.3982% TRIPS | NO FLUSH DRAW | BACKDOOR FLUSH DRAW | STRAIGHT OUTS: 0

0.6057% STRAIGHT | NO FLUSH DRAW | NO BACKDOOR FLUSH DRAW | ALREADY HAVE/BEAT STRAIGHT
0.7339% STRAIGHT | NO FLUSH DRAW | BACKDOOR FLUSH DRAW | ALREADY HAVE/BEAT STRAIGHT
0.2341% STRAIGHT | FLUSH DRAW | NO BACKDOOR FLUSH DRAW | ALREADY HAVE/BEAT STRAIGHT
0.7800% FLUSH | ALREADY HAVE/BEAT FLUSH | ALREADY HAVE/BEAT FLUSH | ALREADY HAVE/BEAT STRAIGHT
0.1174% FULLHOUSE | ALREADY HAVE/BEAT FLUSH | ALREADY HAVE/BEAT FLUSH | ALREADY HAVE/BEAT STRAIGHT
0.0149% QUADS | ALREADY HAVE/BEAT FLUSH | ALREADY HAVE/BEAT FLUSH | ALREADY HAVE/BEAT STRAIGHT
0.0252% STRAIGHTFLUSH | ALREADY HAVE/BEAT FLUSH | ALREADY HAVE/BEAT FLUSH | ALREADY HAVE/BEAT STRAIGHT

In the bottom one I think some of the top pair without BD flush or at least a gutter are pretty marginal since we're OOP but I don't feel like un-highlighting them.

Bradley, can your program total those numbers for us?

As played and assuming a FD on the turn, this might be the time for a blocking bet if you know that your button V will bet large.

No FD? Fold quickly and be happy.

Fold flop.

Pre-flop: I actually don't hate it. Absolute position isn't the issue so much as your relative position. Here, it doesn't get any better. Now, of course, you have to fold that flop when the PF rzr doesn't bet.

How much I was folding from the SB would figure into my play here. Even 1/2 players don't like to give their money to a nit.

I don't always complete either if I have total garbage I'm folding my sb. Also another dead give away to me is a new player that post in early position rather then waiting to come behind the button for free. Anyways another thought I had. Is how strong of a hand could the villain possibly have? I mean he limped on the button behind a limper. Then after the bb raises and then the limper calls the bb raise he still only calls preflop. So what about check raising the flop instead ? The preflop raiser checked that flop so unless he's slow playing a set he should fold and then I think it will be hard for the villain to continue on unless he has a set himself. I would think that ace9 is out of villains range At least for me I'm not calling a preflop raise with ace9. If has 87 he might peel one card off but all his other hands I think he would fold. Unless of course he has 22 or 66.

Ps: I know this is a highly risky play and unless I knew my players I wouldn't make a play like this I'm just wondering what you guys think . 99% of the time I'm just folding the flop.

Appreciate all the input. I only play recreationally, if that wasnt noticeable already, but I do enjoy playing and learning. Sorry that I didn't make it clear before but yes the turn brings us a flush draw. I know it doesn't change pf and flop which are folds but AP is this an easy fold as well? Thanks again