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1/2 PAHWM Weird spot with trips. 1/2 PAHWM Weird spot with trips.

01-21-2018 , 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by SwolyswoND
Hero checks behind river to punish himself for missing such a profitable turn raise.

PSB, I guess.
What hands do you miss value against by calling the turn?
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01-21-2018 , 10:51 PM
Bet $60 on the river to try and look like you are buying it. The only exception is if V is willing to call larger, then bet the max you think he calls with a random 2.
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01-21-2018 , 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by NutJob72
Villian checks. Hero?
If you think villain is weak then bet $50, if he won't call that he has given up on hand. If you think villain is strong then as much as he will call. $75 looks good but I might go as big as $100.
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01-22-2018 , 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Grigory
What hands do you miss value against by calling the turn?
Uh the multitude of draws ?
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01-22-2018 , 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by johnnyBuz
Uh the multitude of draws ?
I guess he could have clubs with overs? I haven't played llsnl in a while.. will people show up with like 46 of clubs?
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01-23-2018 , 11:55 AM
Hero bets 40$ Villian min raises to 80$ Hero?
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01-23-2018 , 12:59 PM
Well, you called on the turn to keep him in and to make your hand look a bit weaker, I guess. Is there anything you beat that will call a raise? I doubt it. Now that you are here, just flat. Would have been easier to get more $ in had you raised the turn and/or bet a bit bigger on the river. I just don't see the point of raising in this spot unless he thinks you'll bluff with AK.
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01-23-2018 , 03:43 PM
Don't fold now. Probably just call the click back. As played everything looks good to me I could go either way on turn, call vs raise, I don't see too many draws leading that turn, feels more like a weaker made hand which to get max value I'd rather just call and then lead rivers.


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Last edited by br3nt00; 01-23-2018 at 03:58 PM.
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01-23-2018 , 11:22 PM
Im calling. If he got a boat, so be it.
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01-23-2018 , 11:37 PM
Flop cbet whatever your normal cbet is. This keeps your bluffs more profitable. Also you're building a pot.

Turn i can see a raise sometimes, but I think a raise probably folds most of his holdings. Turn bluffs are pretty rare in 1/2. I'm calling to keep his range in.

River I'm betting very large, polarizing my hand. Something like 120. You will get several folds but also some hero calls. This is a hand that you should be willing to stack off with and rebuy when you lose.

As played call the click back, you get no value out of raising and only have to win about 1/5.

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01-24-2018 , 07:44 AM
Yeah I just called as I didn't see him stacking off with anything I beat at that point. He rolled over AA. I felt like an idiot. He obviously would have called a jam.
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01-24-2018 , 08:00 AM
Before he called flop you got a read he wanted to raise, awesome! He probably has a deuce, a 7, or like pocket 8's. Time to raise the turn so we can make sure to stack him or come close to stacking him. It would be a shame if the river killed our action or if we hadn't built a big pot.

Bet 3/4-1.25x pot on the river.

As played, I just call.
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01-24-2018 , 08:46 AM
We really got max value on this one.
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01-24-2018 , 11:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SwolyswoND
Hero checks behind river to punish himself for missing such a profitable turn raise.

PSB, I guess.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grigory
What hands do you miss value against by calling the turn?
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Originally Posted by nutjob72
He rolled over AA. I felt like an idiot. He obviously would have called a jam.
Gee.
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01-24-2018 , 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnyBuz
We really got max value on this one.


I see what you're saying but I'd never put AA in his range here. Vs what I think his range is (one pair hands like 76 or 44 or 88) I think we got pretty close to max value, I'd have bet river a tad bigger but otherwise played the hand the same and not felt too bad about it. Take a note on villain and on to the next hand


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01-24-2018 , 03:49 PM
Idk I feel like I could have gotten it in here. Given my live read on flop villian obviously thought he was trapping me. I'm really not happy with how I played it. Yes I was never giving villian any combos of QQ+, but still. I had to take a short break after this hand because it almost tilted me. I absolutely hate leaving money on the table.
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01-24-2018 , 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by SwolyswoND
Gee.
I know. I deserve to be flamed for this hand. It's embarrassing.
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01-24-2018 , 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnyBuz
We really got max value on this one.
Flame away. I deserve it.
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01-24-2018 , 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Badreg2017
Before he called flop you got a read he wanted to raise, awesome! He probably has a deuce, a 7, or like pocket 8's. Time to raise the turn so we can make sure to stack him or come close to stacking him. It would be a shame if the river killed our action or if we hadn't built a big pot.

Bet 3/4-1.25x pot on the river.

As played, I just call.
The read was on the flop that he wanted to raise.
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01-24-2018 , 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by br3nt00
I see what you're saying but I'd never put AA in his range here. Vs what I think his range is (one pair hands like 76 or 44 or 88) I think we got pretty close to max value, I'd have bet river a tad bigger but otherwise played the hand the same and not felt too bad about it. Take a note on villain and on to the next hand
Neither would I, but when we are the PFR with A2 and the flop comes 722 we need to think about how we can play our hand in a way that looks bluffy and FOS.

Villain can have a lot of medium strength overpairs that are going to face difficult decisions when we raise turn and bomb river. We wouldn't be doing that with hands like 99, TT and JJ and are repping a super narrow value range. Further, with all of the draws bricking it forces villain to bluff catch wider since a lot of hands we can raise turn and shove river with are busted draws that picked up equity on the turn.

If villain never calls a raise turn -> shove river line with worse than we can be raising ATC on the turn and shoving rivers. But that's not how poker works and we would be rightfully flamed for spewing.
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