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08-16-2014 , 01:57 PM

AJNewkirk

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Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 102

1/2 at Harrah's, Friday night. I have been here for 1.5 hours.

Hero is 21 yr old playing TAG, two seats left of Villain who is ~45 yr old tourist from Hawaii. Limping/calling a lot. Raises maybe 12%.

I was in a hand with him where we both had AKo, we hit top pair and he made a pretty solid check-raise on the turn after I called his flop bet.

Another hand, I c-bet 1/3 pot on a K77 board with A-high and he said "I know you missed that flop, but you still have me beat."

Three limps to Villain who limps in cutoff (~300). Hero in SB with K

(~180) raises to 15 (a bet that will get one caller on average). Villain calls.

Flop (~40) comes 3

Hero bets 20 (I like to make smaller c-bets against casual players, and this guy has seen me c-bet this size every time) thinking a 3 or a pocket pair will just call.

Villain raises to 70

Hero?

He ended up showing me his cards

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08-16-2014 , 02:07 PM

DrChesspain

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Against someone who seems to be a thinking villain I'm never folding here when I started out less than 100bbs deep. Do we really think he limp-called in LP with aces or is raising this bone-dry flop HU with a T or a set of 3s?

My decision would be between calling and reraising all in.

Last edited by DrChesspain; 08-16-2014 at 02:12 PM.

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08-16-2014 , 02:12 PM

Oddhalo

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Nvr a 10 ime

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08-16-2014 , 02:13 PM

AJNewkirk

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Originally Posted by Oddhalo

Nvr a 10 ime

Why never a ten?

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08-16-2014 , 02:22 PM

DrChesspain

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Originally Posted by AJNewkirk

Why never a ten?

Of course, he could have a ten...but not often enough in my opinion to cause me to fold.

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08-16-2014 , 02:47 PM

Notam

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Originally Posted by Oddhalo

Nvr a 10 ime

Maybe I'm too MUBSy, but I think there is a lot of T in his range. Limp/call pre has a lot of weak broadway and higher suited connectors here. The aggressive C/R OTF is a pure bluff or trips or better IMO a reasonably large amount of the time.

If I were deeper, I might call and evaluate the turn, but I'm not ready to commit my stack at this point. I FOLD.

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08-16-2014 , 04:08 PM

matzah_ball

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He knows you're cbetting boards like this with air. People do this with 66 or A5s all the time. Call and evaluate turn.

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08-16-2014 , 05:52 PM

Zaphod888

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Yeah, I probably fold too. Calling his raise commits you, so I think it's probably bad to call and then fold on the turn.

Unless I get a positive read that he's doing this with a single pair, I give him the benefit of the doubt that he has a T and fold. If you really think you're ahead, then I'd check/shove the turn or shove the river if the turn checks through.

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08-17-2014 , 02:54 PM

AJNewkirk

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Outcome:

Spoiler:

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08-17-2014 , 03:10 PM

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Koss

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If he c/r the turn with tptk before he probably slowplays a T here. This is air or a 88 or something. Flat and let him barrel the turn.

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08-17-2014 , 03:16 PM

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Triple7quinn

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I think I's raise more pre but if you're set on that amount thats fine. If you raise a little more your giving PP the wrong odds to set mine. Anyways I'm probably repopping it all in with the given history. V knows your C-betting with a large chunk of your range so je will call off lighter here. Also most 1/2 V's want to be "deceptive" and flat your flop bet. Only way I'm not shoveling it in is if V is a complete drooler and playing his hand straight forward i.e. Level 1 thinking

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08-17-2014 , 04:01 PM

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slimshady1999

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Call flop and reevaluate. Probably check fold turn. I expect most villains to slow down with worse and with air when you flat flop. Folding is way too nitty unless he is very passive post flop. 3x, 22-99 can raise flop trying to find out where they're at. Include random bluffs on occasion too. Of course he can use Tx a lot depending on his pre flop range and how often he slow plays trips on this dry a board, but you often have the best hand

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08-17-2014 , 05:14 PM

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rgmccoy01

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Originally Posted by matzah_ball

He knows you're cbetting boards like this with air. People do this with 66 or A5s all the time. Call and evaluate turn.

This.

Also, if I read correctly you only have $145 behind when you fire the $20 cbet. Most V's will never raise here with a ten because they want your whole stack. If V hit the ten, he risks only winning $15+$20 when you fold, and most V's at 1/2 are way greedier than that and try to get cute on this flop with a call on two streets and then make a move on river.

To me this is an easy shove given the info you shared. If you lose, oh well it happens, plus we started the hand with about 90 bbs So not super deep.

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