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1/2 - One-Card Straight in 3b Pot 1/2 - One-Card Straight in 3b Pot

05-28-2018 , 03:04 AM
Main Villain - Unknown mid 30s white guy, sat down recently
CO - Reg-type, has 3b a couple of times in the last five orbits or thereabouts
Hero - Not played many hands at the table.

Everyone has at least 100bb.

I'm not too interested in comments about pre. This is a typical nitty fold for me preflop, but I was bored / in a bad mood and called. Don't think it's too egregious. More interested in the river.

Villain in UTG+2 minraises.
BTN three-bets to $16.
Hero in BB cold calls with TT. Villain calls.

Flop ($44): 987
Checks through.

Turn ($44): 6
I bet $28. Villain calls. CO folds.

River ($100): 8
I check. Villain bets $80 within 5 seconds of my check. Hero...???

Last edited by AllTheCheese; 05-28-2018 at 03:16 AM.
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05-28-2018 , 03:59 AM
River is close between calling and jamming. I think I lean towards calling because I expect villain to fold overpairs a decent chunk of the time to a river x/r. Villain won't have us beat very often - occassionally he'll have AJcc-AKcc and occassionally some boats too - but we should be good here at least 75% of the time imo, so I'd never consider folding.
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05-28-2018 , 04:10 AM
Feel like you misread the hand. Jamming definitely seems insane ap.
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05-28-2018 , 04:11 AM
Oh maybe the trouble is the typo. Damn, I wish I could edit. I couldn't remember whether the three-bettor was BTN or CO, ended up calling him both in the OP. My bad. Anyway, he's not the Villain.
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05-28-2018 , 04:21 AM
Yeah that was the confusion. I was under the impression that villain was the 3bettor on BTN, thus I didn't think there were many boats in his range.
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05-28-2018 , 04:25 AM
If that's the case then I don't see how we can do anything other than call. Villain's bet looks somewhat bluffy - perhaps a busted AcX hand? Villain has shown aggressive tendencies and he seems to have given off a timing tell too by betting too quickly.

I don't always expect to win this pot, but I do expect to win more than 30% of the time, so calling should be profitable here.
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05-28-2018 , 04:26 AM
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Villain has shown aggressive tendencies...
I have no read on Villain. He just sat.
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05-28-2018 , 04:32 AM
In that case it's very close. But my default is probably to sigh call until I have some sort of read telling me otherwise.
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05-28-2018 , 09:42 AM
You have a 1 card straight on a paired board with a monotone three card straight flop. The card that paired the board is the middle rank of the three card straight, the worst possible card to pair the board. V open min-raised then smoothed a 3! pre, checked in middle position, smoothed a 2/3rd PSB on the turn, and is firing out a 3/4 PSB otr.

What in V's range do you think you are ahead of here, given you are blocking Tx?
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05-28-2018 , 09:47 AM
Fold pre
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05-28-2018 , 11:34 AM
Tough spot.

Since we are double blocking a straight, hands that we beat primarily come down to an over pair that rivered top 2. Imho, the question is would the V take this line / river sizing with JJ+ that includes a club?

After we called pre, the min-raiser has many big FD combos in his calling range. While it's difficult to flop a flush, from a combo perspective they are several.

In terms of 2pr/sets, my lean is that they are likely betting the flop rather than risk a check through to the turn. No info, so I'm going on tendencies seen.

Conclusion: fold given that typical players don't thin value worse on this texture.
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05-28-2018 , 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Avaritia
Fold pre
Not sure if this is a joke or not.

It's a 3 bet...to $16. I mean hell, $16 in a 1/2 game is a standard open pretty often. The fact that it is technically a 3 bet means nothing, he's raising over a freaking min raise.

All other analysis of this hand aside, folding pre is absolutely out of the question in my mind. Can't believe OP suggested it.

River should be a call always imo. If you're beat I'd expect it to be the nut flush a fair amount of the time. I mean if you're wanting to fold 1010 pre for $16 you're at the absolute top of your range.
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05-28-2018 , 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by chopstick
You have a 1 card straight on a paired board with a monotone three card straight flop. The card that paired the board is the middle rank of the three card straight, the worst possible card to pair the board. V open min-raised then smoothed a 3! pre, checked in middle position, smoothed a 2/3rd PSB on the turn, and is firing out a 3/4 PSB otr.

What in V's range do you think you are ahead of here, given you are blocking Tx?
AcKx, AxKc, AcQx, AxQc, AcJx, AxJc, KcQx, KxQc, KcJx, KxJc, QcJx, QxJc. Typically 1/2 EP minraise players like to chase ime. I also chop with most Tx that he can be overvaluing.

I think before his river bet, I'm a good amount ahead of his range overall. The question is whether an unknown 1/2 player who bets with big sizing otr will actually have enough of his airball and Tx hands to justify calling.

Last edited by AllTheCheese; 05-28-2018 at 01:59 PM.
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