Playing at the table for about an hour and a half. Effective stack is about $200, my stack. CO (the V here) had shown some questionable hands but I wouldn’t put him as loose with what little time I was there with him. He was definitely aggressive and not afraid to fight for a pot with air.

7 handed at the moment, I have KK on the button.

3 limpers and I raise to $15. Cut off called.
Heads up to the flop.

Flop is 238 rainbow. Checked to me, I bet $30. CO raised me all in.

I put him on either top pair, two over cards, or a backdoor straight semi-bluff. After thinking for a minute or two, I call. I feel I made the right call irregardless of the outcome in the hand but what do you guys feel about my play?



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I don't really understand your read. Jam 100BBs with overcards or a backdoor straight? That seems a little ridiculous.

That said, I like all your decisions in this hand, although personally I would bet smaller on the flop.

Seems fine but his range is probably more pp heavy like 22-JJ including sets. Still a standard gii at this depth.

I didn’t feel like he had 88+ because I felt he would have reraised pre—I’ve seen him do it multiple times and gone to showdown. You’re right though, 22-77 is possible.


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You’re right, it is ridiculous but based on his play thus far it seemed like he only bet pot/half pot when he had a strong hand and always over bet when he had something marginal, in this case he had 85 off, so my read was right ...though not saying I am right because I know I have work to do in that area.

As I was tanking I did go through all possible hands I felt he could have, and I didn’t feel 2 pair could be on that list. He would have to have had 83,82, or 23 which was not in his range at all. I know I should have counted 22, 33, 88 as possibilities but I felt he would have raised 88+ pre into limpers and wouldn’t he have just raised and not jammed a set? I guess I don’t know the answer to that one.



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That would seem to make this a trivial call to the flop c/r. I mean, if you're not going to call here with KK, then this Villain could literally make this play with any two random cards and be printing money on your paper.

i don't see how you can fold here, there's so much that you're ahead of

Really? Name 10 hands he is ahead of.


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77/66/55/44/A8s/45s/A4s/A3s/A2s/"random hand"

P.S. OP implies that Villain is LAGgy, not a moron. Why would Villain want to blow Hero out of the hand with such as an extreme overbet if he had a set?

I disagree that he is shipping with flop with anything but 45 here as a bluff.

And if hero called and V had a set it’s a good play, right?


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Not afraid to fight for the pot with air.
Not afraid to fight for the pot with air.
Not afraid to fight for the pot with air.
Not afraid to fight for the pot with air.
Not afraid to fight for the pot with air.

It's a very dry flop so we should expect sets to slow play to trap and to allow hero's AK/AQ to hit on turn so we can pay them off. Not unusual to see inexperienced low stakes players raise weak top pairs and small overpairs for protection/information but often this will be a minrise.

Given read this guy is LAGgy I think OP is right to read this as a pairs turned into bluffs. It seems the logical extension of noob poker - if raising your crap pairs doesn't work well for value and you hate checking and calling and you really really hate folding why not CRAI with them?

It is actually going to work quite well against players using loose open ranges and high flop cbet% and when you do get called you've got some equity. At middling stack depths it's not like he's risking tons of chips. The mistake is obviously to take this play and use it against tight open raisers with low cbet% and anyone attempting to be routinely balanced at low stakes (LOL).

You know what? Maybe I'll start using this move myself...

...not even completely kidding