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Old 03-12-2014, 06:42 PM   #26
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Re: 1-2 NL: This is why we don't cold call KQ in the blinds

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Fold the flop?
Don't listen to him. Pre-flop and post-flop are fine. When a flop like that comes down you generally have the nut K because of the pre-flop action. Depending on how you feel about the other players in your hand a 3 is the bigger worry for you (A3s, 45s, etc) and in most cases they do not have a 3.

I agree with raising the turn, though you wouldn't be doing it to protect your hand. A min-raise would be a bit better on the turn to extract value from worse K hands. J on the river is a problem card so a c/c is fine, but you can even lead out on the river and then fold if there is a big raise.
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Old 03-12-2014, 07:39 PM   #27
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Re: 1-2 NL: This is why we don't cold call KQ in the blinds

C/r the flop for value is a line to consider. Depends how sticky the V is.

I would c/f the river though.
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Old 03-12-2014, 07:40 PM   #28
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He said , he was looking to flop big, I assume 2 pair or better. Calling here is fine and make a decision after the turn?

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Old 03-12-2014, 09:16 PM   #29
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Re: 1-2 NL: This is why we don't cold call KQ in the blinds

Everyone stop turning decent showdown hands into bluffs when we only expect one hand to fold and that only maybe.
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Old 03-12-2014, 10:04 PM   #30
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Re: 1-2 NL: This is why we don't cold call KQ in the blinds

Just curious, but this seems like a pretty typical spot. There's a really dry flop and 90% of the deck is effectively a blank for turn and river. Why are so many people advocating a c/c on flop and turn and then a c/f river? Villains I play against will almost always 3-barrel their hands, and it's tough to narrow down their holdings based on future action. In this case they didn't 3-barrel and the results were right, but I almost always feel like on the flop we need to decide if the hand is worth calling 3-barrels, and if not, just c/f the flop even though we will be folding the best hand a decent portion of the time. Is c/c TPGK on the flop with the intention of c/f later streets even though the board blanks out really a +EV move? I guess the question is do we expect villains to only 3-barrel better hands, and the profit from the times they give up with weaker hands make up for the time we pay off flop and turn bets makes up for it?
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Old 03-12-2014, 10:12 PM   #31
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Re: 1-2 NL: This is why we don't cold call KQ in the blinds

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If KJ is a strong possibility then that makes it profitable to call with KQ from the blinds. If KJ is a raising but not calling hand than KQs is surely a calling hand.
Villain is not the preflop raiser, FWIW.
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Old 03-13-2014, 02:55 AM   #32
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Re: 1-2 NL: This is why we don't cold call KQ in the blinds

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C/r the flop for value is a line to consider. Depends how sticky the V is.

I would c/f the river though.
C/R flop is really bad. For 1, she is repping a hand that likely beats us. For 2, we have two villains behind us to act which could have us beat. For 3, we are essentially just bloating a pot out of position when we have no clue whether we have the best hand or not.
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