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1/2 NL, Top pair and FD on turn. 1/2 NL, Top pair and FD on turn.

12-07-2012 , 11:40 AM
My stack is about $280 and my image is pretty active. I'm opening approx 20% of the time. Villain has been pretty TAG, he's an older fellow who has check raised my twice over the past 4 hours withouth show down. I haven't seen him CR anyone else.

Here's the hand:

I raise in the hi jack with QJs to $12 and villain flats.

Flop Q48 with 1 spade.

Villain checks, and I cbet to $20 and villain flats.

Turn is a 2 of spades giving me a FD. Villain leads out for $25. I raise to $65, making the pot $165. Villain sits for about 15 seconds and shoves his remaining $180.

Hero???
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12-07-2012 , 11:56 AM
fold. and i'm going mostly on gut here. villain isn't afraid to check raised you and has gotten folds. his call seems "strong". then a small donk on the turn screams strength and "i don't want to miss getting a bet that will get called". i'd be guessing a set... 2 pair at least. doesn't seem like the type of guy that bluffs.
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12-07-2012 , 12:11 PM
Is my line standard? Should I be flatting his donk bet opposed to raising?

Last edited by CammyCash; 12-07-2012 at 12:17 PM. Reason: Spell check
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12-07-2012 , 12:14 PM
yes, i think your line is standard and reasonable. you raised with a good hand. you cbet when you hit top pair. you raised the turn with still top pair and a flush draw. the next decision is totally based on your read of the villain. if you think he has bluffs in his range or overvalues his hands a call could be justified, especially with your flush draw. against the guy i'm imagining, i'd say this is a fold.
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12-07-2012 , 01:10 PM
In general, you shouldn't be raising this turn if you're playing loose. You're wasting your image here. Call and overbet shove when the flush hits is a much better line.
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12-07-2012 , 09:48 PM
just call the turn
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12-07-2012 , 09:54 PM
Is tough not to be results oriented when we know he shoved. Next time cut it off at the decision point you'd most like to discuss.
Arguments can be made for raising and calling based on reads and exact stack/ pot sizes which you need to give us.
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12-08-2012 , 02:25 AM
Did villain limp in or did he call us from the blinds ?
I don't mind the line you took, but I think if you're going to raise there you need to already have a plan on what you're going to do if he re raises you. I would probably re raise turn if I was going to call a shove. I'd also re raise him more. He only has to call 40 into around 195 on the re raise you made. We're not going to get many hands to fold with those odds. I also don't mind just calling here, we have position and we can control the pot size and determine final action on the river.
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12-08-2012 , 03:35 AM
I don't like raising the turn.

I think I'd raise the turn with Axss, or some kind of naked flush draw. But your hand is too good to raise the turn-- look at what happened... now you have to fold a very strong hand.
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