Sorry if this seems standard - just more of an MTT guy starting to play a bit more cash.

Just sat down and am basically getting my $200.00 buy-in out of my tray, so absolutely no reads, other than what looks to be like 6 older regs and maybe 3 vacationing poker players at the table.

Also, looks like the game has been going for awhile because the shortest stack at the table has like $400.00 in front of them.

I look down at AsJs on the button. 6 limpers so I pump it to 6x - $12 (okay so far? - thinking to thin it out a bit in position...?).

I get four folds and two calls - BB and UTG+2. We see the flop 3-handed.

Dream flop comes Jd-8s-3s. BB bets $12, UTG+2 calls.

I make it $50.00 to go (thoughts on flop bet sizing?).

BB folds and UTG+2 announces "All-in". He has me covered by quite a bit.

What is the thought process here? Any reason not to call?

Thoughts on all streets?

Thanks in advance.

Preflop raise should be $18-22 after 6 limpers. Never folding that flop.

Sure I can come up with a reason not to call: You need around 35% equity to break even on this call. Put villain on exactly JJ/88/33 and you only have 29.7% equity, so fold, but notice this is a PRETTY TERRIBLE REASON not to call. Even against villain's nut range calling is only a small mistake. Widen villain's range just a tad and calling then becomes profitable. To demonstrate what I'm talking about just throw T9 in villain's range and now you have a profitable call.

So yeah, I can give you a reason not to call, I just can't give you a good reason not to call.

Call it off.

Not a big fan of the flop raise in this spot. Your equity is obviously very good but I probably just call to make sure the weaker draws stay in (especially the flush draws). If I were to raise I'd make it smaller to ensure the flush draws stay in.

Pre, need to make it more at 1/2. Raising pre in this spot is probably optimal but limping is also quite profitable.

How did you calculate that we need 35% equity to break even and how did you get the 29.7%?

35% pot odds.
29.7% your hand equity on this board V range [JJ,88,33]

Standard. In a vacuum 1/2 TPTK on the flop is da nuts + you ve got spades. Yeah Argh in./call.
Pre could have been more maybe but its your first hand so i guess not sure of "standard" raise. Meh here nor there.

I understand what the numbers represent but how did you calculate the hand equity vs villains range? Did you just put it in pokerstove ?

In short yeah that's what he did.

Raise more preflop. As played snap call. Assuming you lost to a set given the way the action played out and the fact that you posted this.

As described above you're in decent shape even against the very top of villains range and he usually has more than three hands that take this line.

Well played, now get it in. Standard shove on our dream flop.

Given the stack sizes, this is never ever a fold.
Raise more pre, $15-$20.

Call, ainec.

Pot size = $47 preflop + $212 flop once action gets back to hero - $5 rake = $254.

So we need to call $138 to win $254.

Break-even equity is 138/(138+254) = 35.2%

Our equity against a range of 33,88,JJ:

Our equity if we just add T9 to villain's range:

1. With 6 limpers bet more pre-flop, something like 20 to 30. 12 into 6 limpers is very likely to get 6 callers.

2. Flat the flop. Keeps their range wider while they build a pot for you and gives you a cheap draw at your flush. You have TPTK, that has show down value, not play for stacks value. The flush has play for stacks value.

16-18 pre.

Now stick it in. This would be a get it in 200-300bb deep let alone 100bb

Standard snap call. TPTK and NFD 100bb deep with a bunch of money in already?

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ee.

I actually find a fold on the flop unless UTG+2 has superficial gambooly appearance. (i.e. he's Asian, wearing too much jewelry for a guy, headphones with an internet poker hat, etc) which might indicate he's making this move with less than 33/88 here.

As pointed out, it's real close either way, which is why I would use their appearance to help make the call.

you are going to put him on exactly 2 hands based on 2 actions? a preflop call, and a flop CRAI? Sorry, but this is terrible. 100 BBs deep you can never fold this hand. And no, it is not "close either way". It's only close if you put him on exactly 88 or 33, which is absurd.

+1

I think cases can be made were overlimping pre and/or flatting flop are pretty profitable too.

More pre, flop is fine, now call.

Fistpump call. Don't worry if you don't hit. I had 3 last weekend and lost all 3. I usually don't like to flip for an entire buyin but what can you do? Granted you have no fold equituy but you are a flip against any overpair and a slight dog against 2 pair and sets. Jam.....

As for preflop, raising size will not change the game that much. I see so many posts on what would be ideal but the postflop action will not change if the preflop raises were different so it would not matter.

With all that money on the table in a 1/2 game I'm anticipating it to be an action game. That along witth the size of the pot, your equity in the hand and the image that it gives if you call (lose win doesn't matter, you look like you came to gamble!). Sure he could have a set but there is a lot of other hands he could have also. Snap call

This depends on the room. In my room I will be called for a PSB on the flop with a smaller flush draw, and 1/2 psb on the turn. They hit it on the river and shove. I travel a lot and have played in many a room where I would agree with you too though.


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