Late into the session, have been playing with villain for about 7 hours at this point. I have been able to find very few spots, have played very few pots overall, and am losing my ass. I'm in for $600, every big pot has went wrong tonight, only managed to win a few small ones to even stay in the game.

Villain, on the other hand, has been in full God-mode, having shown down multiples of sets, straights, flushes, it's been crazy. He has been at the table since right after I sat down. He lost $150 within an orbit, rebought another $150, and now has around $1600. Playing something like 75-40, sometimes more, he is very loose pre, very loose aggro post, loves to check-raise, it seriously is like his favorite thing ever, I lost a pot earlier to him where I had AJ raised pre, just called his donk bet on flop, and then bet/folded to his turn checkraise. After watching him play for a while I think it may have been a mistake. In any case, that is a lot of back story and IDK if all or any of it matters much for this one spot, but oh well.

Hero in CO: $327
Villain MP1: $1600
Other player BB: $56 casual rec drunk Saturday night player

Villain limps behind UTG limper. One more limper between. Hero makes it $17 with QQ
BB calls.
Others fold.
Villain makes it $50 straight
Hero?

This is the first limp-reraise I have seen from this player. Frankly, I put him on almost anything he would limp with. He doesn't like to be checking and calling much, and likes to be the aggressor. If he thinks I might fold for whatever reason, or that he can take control, or even that he has the best hand, he might do something like this.

I am not concerned with the rec player. If he hits his Ace or set or whatever it is, he is not my primary worry. What I'd like to know is how to maximize in this spot vs villain.

Shove?
Just call?
Click it back? Or raise to something like $125-$140 which I think villain would at least call against 60% of the time, probably more.

Long post I know, sorry, just trying to set the stage.

Make a raise that might imply to FE that he has FE if he shoves, such as the 125-140 you mentioned. If he calls, gii on any non-ace flop. If he shoves, snap call.

Raise to 155 and prolly fold to a shove...

Why fold? Guy is in God mode and loves to push people around. His shove range is prob 99+ AJ+. Can he have AA or KK, sure, but his range is way tighter than an average 5-bet shove range given these dynamics.

That's lighting money on fire. We are 4 betting for value not as bluff.

Grunch: This is a pretty easy raise to around $140 or so, then just close your eyes and ship every flop. Shoving is worse because he might actually fold. Calling is bad because you're leaving a ton of value on the table. Folding at any point is extremely bad.

Thanks for responses. Seems consensus is a raise, but not a shove. I agree. I raised to $127. Rec player called, and Villain tank called.


Main pot: $165
Side pot: $140ish

Hero Stack: $200


Flop QT6


Villain checks. Do I just go ahead and shove? Do I just check behind and hope he bluffs turn? If I bet, how much do I bet to try to get him to either call, or of course my preference is for him to check-raise me all in, or call the shove.

Just shove. There's nothing but bad things that can come from checking.

I like a raise right around 150. If he shoves your calling, and if he flats I'd jam all flops that Q is an over card, probably K high to if checked to.

Shove

I might be tempted to bet like $75. either that or shoving depending on the vibe I was getting from villain. Your never folding any river card so I'd bet what ever I thought had the best chance of being called, large or small

Agreed.

In a situation like this, I want to get stacks in and that means taking the initiative.

2/3 pot size bet in your stack...it is getting in right now

I'd love to bet an inducing amount, but we don't have one. Our stack isn't deep enough for him to think he'd have any FE after any reasonable bet. Board is pretty wet, so we definitely don't want to check here. I think we have to just shove now and hope he has something.

checking flop?! this is bad a lot of times.. but hes folding 10s and lower..he calls any bet with aa kk aq that's for sure, if that's what you put him on then ya the 2/3 bet to all in is right move but i really don't think hes got any of those hands and we are trying to get his chips in.. and why would villain check the flush draw?? people play flush draw really strong these days deff at 1 2, he would have bet something on flop, if not push you all in.. so that's pretty much out.. him betting pre really putting him on aj ak 22+.. check flop let him hit his A or make his smaller set and let him shove on turn.. he will more then likely shove the turn no matter what if we check flop.. we are getting the chips in no matter what anyways.. why not get his chips in too.. GL

I dont mind putting in $90 here agaisnt the $140 side pot. Maybe even ask the dealer to spread the side pot or just stare at it a little before doing so. Worst case you price in some additional dollars on his side ... Shoving all Turns off course ... GL

I liked your raise PF .. you would be leaving too much behind with such a stong hand 'finally'. Don't think you get him to come along though if the other guy doesn't call. Why is he tanking getting 2 to 1ish? GL

I would act annoyed at his back raise, then after maybe 30 seconds 4 bet to 120/call.

Shoving flop sucks with such a strong hand vs someone with a weak range.

You can bet very small vs someone unlikely to give up and either induce a check raise from air, or get them to float so they can bluff at scare cards on the turn, which there are many of.

This is the worst thing you could do.

4bet to 120ish pre
as played on this flop i like to bet something like 40
it might induce some spazzing and its to cheap for him to fold anything

It can also give him great odds to draw to the hundred draws on that board.

Appreciate your inputs.

I felt that I ended up playing both pre and flop fine, but am glad to hear others thoughts on it, and it seems as most agree with the way I played it.

I went ahead and shoved, he called me with a gutterball and an over, and I guess backdoor clubs. He had AJ one of them was a club. Actually kinda surprised he didn't just bet into me with it. This hand sent me home pretty bitter, but if I made good decisions, maybe next time it'll go my way.

Shoving pre over 3bet misses a ton of value imo. Flatting and raising small are both viable, but it depends totally on how he plays flops
Going 140 and having him fold all his broadway hands sucks so I'd go 100-110 or even just flat. Both these options are much more likely to induce spazz and bad stackoffs than a big 4b. Basically give him a small enough pot where he thinks he can bluff