V ($400): 40s-50s Asian man, First time play with him. tight side



Preflop: Hero($750) dealt QQ in SB. V raises to $10 in MP. Hero re-raises to $30.

Flop ($62): 2d7d9c

Hero leads 45(too small? should I bet pot here?), V calls.

Turn ($152): Kh

Hero checks, V bets $50, Hero calls.

River($252):5s

Hero checks, V bets 75. Hero?

My thought process:
V calls my flop bets, so his range can be 9x, 88,TT JJ and He may re-raises if he has 22 77 or 99. I also eliminate KK and AA because he didn't 4b PF. K is a great card for him to bet on Turn, but I think it's a weak bet(Right?). I don't understand his river bet unless he has AK or KX.

Pre is good.

Flop is fine, no need to bomb it with such a dry board.

Turn, the king doesn't change much when you think about it. Unless he's specifically got KK, AK or something ******ed like K9, he should never have a king. You need to bet the turn to get value from a diamond draw.

River is a fairly easy bluff-catching call. 68 got there but diamonds busted. We're getting 4.3-1 so we need to be good one out of 5.3 times to make this a profitable call. Villains turn and river bets are so weak that we need to pay off here because it's hard to see him with much of anything that takes this line. It smells like blocking/value bets with 9x or TT/JJ or a bluff.

Really though, without solid reads, this needs to be bet/folded on the turn.

I agree with DeathCabForTootie.

Sets are in his range obviously, so we're paying off a made hand some of the time. However, if we b/f the turn we know if we get raised we are almost never good here.

Call pot odds

I bet the turn myself for value

Thanks. If I b/f on the turn, what is a good bet size? What should I do on the river if V calls turn bet?

its an even better card for you to double barrel.

I also agree with DeathCabForTootie's post. this sounds like it could be a case of mubs.

PF: I usually like to 3! bit more when I'm in the blinds. I'd pop it to $50.
F: Heads up. Pot is $62. SPR is 6. 3/4P C-bet is fine.
T: Pot is $152. I'd keep betting. Just becasue a King comes doesn't mean he has one. I'm betting to charge the flush draws and any hands like T8, 86 although he probably doesn't play these hands to a 3! I'd bet $90. As played, we check and he bets 1/3P. Weird bet. Maybe he has a weak K and doesn't want to bet too much. Maybe he's trying to build the pot just a little more if he hits his draw. I think a 9 would check here. As played, I'd call with intention of calling a "normal" river bet if a diamond doesn't fall.
R: Pot is $252. He fires less than 1/3P giving us 4.4:1. The 5 completes the 86 draw but I doubt he has this. Well if we called the turn, we need to call this river.

Call pot odds

Gotta double barrel for value. qq still likely the best hand plenty of worse can call

I bet $80-90 on the turn. If the villain calls the turn, I bet the river. Like we've discussed, a king doesn't change anything on the turn. If the villain calls the turn, I bet like 1/3 pot to get value from 9x or TT-JJ. If we're raised on the river, we're never good and we safely fold.

If we are bet folding I have to ask the question, first what sizing? If we bet like 100 and we are called we will have 225 effective stacks. The pot will be 350. What do we do on blank rivers? Check fold? Shove?

I'm not completely opposed to bet folding im just not sure what we do on the river.

River you have to decide if he's the type to call a small bet with pair of 9s, 88, tt-jj

Or the type who is going to be bomb missed straights and flushes (assuming river bricks).

Less likely he could be the type to jam over 1/3 pot sized bet as a bluff bc it looks weak in that case bet/call

If a diamond rolls off I'm check - folding but might pay off sub 25% pot.


The river is a sort of subjective not easy spot. But you shouldn't do X on the turn to make the river easier. You have to pound for big value on the turn

Bet turn, but as played call river

A lot of people are saying bet turn and they're right and here is why. Your entire predicament is based in you allowing the villain to take the initiative on the turn when you check. To me, you hand looks just like what it is if I'm the villain. I would've put you on TT-QQ. Because you check/called you gained no info. Any hand could see the king scarred you based on your play. So they bet and when you just call then check the river you look even weaker prompting v to stab again. I think you have to barrel the turn 100% of the time here. Fold to a raise and depending on reads MAYBE barrel the river too (maybe a small block bet). Playing OOP sucks no doubt. But check calling makes it even worse with a made hand. When OOP betting is the only real way to force info out of the v.

Agree with most posters.

Bet turn for value.

Check/call river depending on sizing and card.

As played, call river.