Table is 7 handed and is playing kinda half way in between tight and loose.

Villain (BB) is visibly drunk but he's a decent poker player. He knows what he's doing and so far I haven't him seen him get too out of line but I know he is capable of bluffs in spots where he senses weakness. Haven't seen any of his hands shown down yet except one where he picked up a combodraw (gutshow and flushdraw) on the turn and he shoved all in for a 4x raise and showed his hand afterwards. I've seen him call someone down on 2 streets with middle pair twice putting him on a complete bluff and he was right both times. He's by no means a calling station thinking "zomg I have a pair" but I'm almost positive he suffers from "everyone is always going to bluff me syndrome".

Hero (CO) has been playing pretty tight although I got caught bluffing 2 barrels on a dry board with air (not sure that villain even noticed as he is drunk). I haven't been getting out of line at all.

Effective stacks ~$350

Loose pre flop guy but super tight post flop limps in the HJ, hero raises to $10 with K2, old guy who just sat down calls in SB, villain calls in BB, HJ calls.

Flop($35): K35

Checks around to hero who bets $20, SB folds, villain calls, HJ folds.

Turn($75): 7

Villain checks, hero ?

TP+FD+gutshot=bet 50 imo

prob fold to a raise FWIW

Check, because worst hands cant call and better hands won't fold.

i vote reply #3 fwiw

Better hands can fold and worse hands can call imo...

...I am always betting here

If u check behind, the river is a blank and Villain fires a PSB what do u do?

I bet 45, villain tanks, says "I'm just thinking if I should put you all in now or wait" then he calls.

River($165): 6

Villain leads out for 100, hero ??

Sigh, villain is smart enough to realize there are very, very few 4s if any in my range and my hand is pretty defined in his eyes as TPGK (I bet he's gonna put me on AK). He knows I'm checking behind almost always with this river card.


He's definitely capable of bluffing in this spot but the question is what possible hands is he calling the flop and turn that I still beat that he's turning into a bluff on the river?

I originally thought you had K4 but am still betting turn with TP + FD, as you said he most likely puts us on TPGK or something like QQ so he is prob betting a large percentage for value here.
I prob fold the river. ( the more I look at the hand though I wonder why he would donk the river...I mean we have not shown any weakness at all in the hand, and it is a pretty big bet to donk out there on the river, maybe like some K7s, K4, 67 type hand I dunno)

check turn because not that many worse hands can call and getting c/r'd off our hand sucks when we have a bdfd, if we spike it otr hes likely to lead into us and never put us on a flush if we raise

similarly we look more fos betting river than turn if checked to

i mean if we're going to be checking back river if it bricks (which i think we should with this line) id rather check the turn then bet river or call if led into

turn betting kind of overreps our hand, we dont need the additional FE since we have tp to go with our fd so theres no need to force out weaker one pair hands

as played i think rivers a pretty clear fold, we had the speech and we dont really beat much unless he floated us with complete air otf

Fold pre, flop is fine, $50 on turn, fold river.

While I still think firing the second barrel is optimal (given villain knows we can two barrel light and he might be calling with a bluff catcher, also we charge anyone who has now picked up a str8 or flush draw) it does, if called, turn our hand into a drawing hand and poss a bluff on the river, obv checking the turn back with the intention of snapping the river is fine.

theres only one worse hand that calls, 76. saying worse calls here doesnt uphold your argument imo. if your argument that better hands fold and we are bluffing with equity then id say ok but saying worse calls and better folds in this spot is just wrong.

if you check behind and villain fires pot on river (which you see about 1/1000 times ecause they never bet pot, they always go lol i have AK i need him to call, and bet $25) then you can make a decision.

you cant base your decision off of what he may do in a certain spot.

If the flop is typically going to go 4+ways when raising preflop here, then I'd much rather limp with this hand.

I also bet the flop as we've got TP in a multi-way pot.

I'm checking the turn here. Firstly, villain called the flop bet on a pretty dry board; if we're ahead, he's probably got few outs, if we're behind, we've got lots. Secondly, we've picked up a flush draw and against an aggressive villain it would suck to be blown off this hand with a check/raise. Third, if we whiff river the aggressive villain will probably either bluff / make a stupid thin value bet with a worse hand and we can easily call given the fact we showed weakness on the turn, or we easily get value with a bet as he's always calling with anything.

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He was joking about the worse calling and the better folding.


Also @GG this typically would get me heads up with the limper, the standard raise was $6 at this table.

no he wasn't... how do you figure from his post that he was joking. he was saying he bets all the time