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05-16-2013 , 02:11 PM
Sorry, what is a level account?

I never bluffed. I was ahead , albeit by a small %. I said I wanted a call, not a fold. Obviously I could have played it differently but i was not trying to bluff anything.

Please explain to me how betting AA on a J94 flop is a bluff. Like the previous poster said, I may as well have flipped my cards face up.
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05-16-2013 , 02:35 PM
This is awesome!!!!
"V flats my raise" " I put him on a J" LOL
I Put on sunglasses to look like a poser? Wtf is that

60% level account
40% mental ******ation

I'm leaning towards the ladder
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05-16-2013 , 02:43 PM
He didn't act post-flop, how can you "put him on a j" ?

Did he always raise pf to exactly $17 with a J in his hand lol
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05-16-2013 , 02:43 PM
Despite your jumping in to flame stacking chips, which is completely unproductive, I have to thank Rumor for his advice on how to play the hand differently. Cheers. Obviously I am looking to improve my game or I wouldn't be posting in here looking for input.
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05-16-2013 , 02:49 PM
jlozan84 : sorry I worded that wrong in my post, I mean I thought he had Jx or better .
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05-16-2013 , 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by mikethekid83
Despite your jumping in to flame stacking chips, which is completely unproductive, I have to thank Rumor for his advice on how to play the hand differently. Cheers. Obviously I am looking to improve my game or I wouldn't be posting in here looking for input.
In the future
1)don't post the results.
2)give more info on V if possible
3)don't just post a hand because you got sucked out on.
Read through some hands and you will see what I mean.
Gl
It's obv you aren't looking for advice you just wanted sympathy for your bad beat.
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05-16-2013 , 02:59 PM
yes it's PAINFULLY clear now why not to post hand results here. Your assumption about me wanting sympathy is just way off. If I gave a **** about the outcome I would be bitching about it saying omg this guy sucked out, how the **** could he win, etc. I've made it clear that I am thankful for getting some informed advice and will use it to improve my game. I just though this is how I was supposed to present the hand, didn't expect to get flamed.
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05-16-2013 , 03:40 PM
You didn't really get flamed for the format
It was mostly because you said he flatted your 3b
You put him on a J and jammed 400 into a 100 pot... That's why you got flamed.
Just post the action pre and on the flop if needed.
Include stack sizes and any reads on villan..
And wait for advice.
Sorry if I upset you.
I was being a jerk.. 😜
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05-16-2013 , 03:48 PM
I don't think we meant to flame you - just a little confused by the comment about thinking he had a jack before he even acted post-flop.

Also, you'll get much better/non results-oriented help without giving results.
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05-16-2013 , 04:02 PM
thanks guys
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05-16-2013 , 05:46 PM
fold preflop. If you are playing vs bad lags and maniacs who will not fold preflop and you are out of position. Throw away the trash. Simply wait for the premium hand and get them or play with position and high SPRs. The blinds aren't yours to protect its part of the pot.

usually you can 3b a calling lag with position and a merged range that is better than theirs. Like KJo if they call with all sorts of crap and turn passive on the flop or turn or just stupid. There are some bad players who might suck preflop but actually play a decent post flop game.

Yes I coach live play.
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05-17-2013 , 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by winky51
fold preflop.
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Originally Posted by mikethekid83
I turn over AA
Yes, by all means fold preflop. Wait for your premium hands....

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Originally Posted by winky51
Yes I coach live play.
I'm sorry.

To the OP. I think the point most people are trying to make ITT is that neither you nor your opponent made any mistakes here once the flop came (Ofc, He made a big mistake calling pre with KJs, unless he could be sure he could get your stack, which he did, so I guess he made no mistakes). NLHE is a game of trading mistakes, you did not allow the space for him to make a major mistake.

What I mean is, by pushing all in when the equity was 50-50, your opponent made no mistake to call, and you were making a neutral EV play (although, depending on suits of As, you might have been a slight dog) Let's say, as you asked, that you check, and he bets 50, you call, and the turn is an A. NOW you push all in, when your equity is 80% (ish, you didn't actually say what the suits were on the As). Even though you are pushing only 250 into a pot containing 200, your opponent is now making a horrible call, having only about a 1 in 5 chance of winning the pot, and getting less than 2-1 pot odds.

Whether he makes the call or not is immaterial. You have now setup a profitable situation, which if you repeat innumerable times, will result in you absolutely printing money. GL in the future!
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05-17-2013 , 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by mikethekid83
let's say I check the flop, Villain bets 50 and I call

A comes. How would you proceed guys?
Never checking this flop, too much value would be lost if the flop checks through.
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