1/2 NL, 9 handed, four hours into session. Effective stack is $600. Villain has just moved from another table and folded his first four hands - hero has no prior experience with villain.

OTTH

Hero opens T T UTG and only villain in HJ calls.

Flop ($23): T 9 5. Hero c bets $16 and villain calls.

Turn ($55): A. Hero bets $35 and villain raises to $100. What is our plan?

3bet to $250. Let him think you’re overplaying AK. Then shove any river for a 325/550 bet. Can’t flat as board is too wet, remaining stacks are too deep, and you’re OOP.

Obviously sizings would be a little different, but what would we do if there wasn't a FD?

Without the flush draw he’s either got 99/55/AT/A9/A5 and you can likely just flat and x/jam river. Problem with that is if you flat there’s still still $475 behind with a pot of only $250 so you need him to bet big on the river and call the jam. I might still min click it to $200 without the flush draw.

What a fun spot. At first reaction I like a smaller 3b but then scary river cards could come and he could find some hero folds in rivers and he ends up not really making a huge mistake with QJ/78 or combos draws. And he’s never going to fold to 290/300 with 2p+.

Just put a decent amount in and make him commit.

TT flops more sets than any other pair.

Standard raise, theres just way too much value hero can lose by flatting. Agree no less than 250 and am fine with more

Make it 300 and jam all rivers

Just keep piling. Once you bet bet, there really is no other line to take w your strongest hands.

300 is too much unless you want to just shove now which seems absurd.

+1 exactly what I would do.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Without other reads, and this deep, I'm fast playing my value here

I just can't stands it when people make massive, correct hero folds against me.

All in!

Especially if you are not 100% confident in your abilities or a bit nervous about the stacks.

Also, bet at least pot otf. He isn't folding a FD, a set, 9T, AT, probably not any T (even if it's weak, he didn't call with it to fold top pair) and probably not QJ. Nor, JJ or QQ, obviously. Maybe even 78 is in there, and several striaght flush draws. Hands that missed are mostly folding anyway. Hard to think of many medium strength hands for him here. A9?

I'd probably pot the turn too. NFD now has top pair. AT ain't folding. Sets ain't folding. QJs, KJs, QKs ain't folding. Entirely possible other straight draws call. All FDs likely call, especially SF draws. Hands like QT are likely done and probably a bit discounted anyway, calling a raise pre.

This is why I don't mind shoving when raised. Sucks if this guy is the one guy who can fold t9 or something. On the other hand, he will call when crushed fairly often. People will absolutely call with 2 pair, NFD with top pair, sets, royal draws, 7s8s, 6s8s, 6s7s and occasionally worse. And you deny him the chance to play his draws perfectly on the river.

2 interesting factors here 1) V has been at table for 4 hands and is unknown and 2) H is OOP.

With these I think you have to make it $240 or so and fire again on all rivers. Could maybe get my head around checking a spade river because the heat would be too much for V to handle but against an unknown just fire.

What the heck kind of buy in limits are at your card room that the guy is new to the table, hasn't played a hand and the effective stacks are $600 at 1/2? Did he come from a broken game or something?

I am confident in abilities and not nervous about stacks. I think I like not jamming, and jamming all rivers a little bit more.

By the way, I bet slightly over 2/3 pot on the flop, not less than 1/2.

What hands is he calling 2/3 pot but not pot? I think this is a key to 1/2. People will call on good flops for them in small pots without much concern for pot size. At this depth especially. Mary him to the pot. Possibly scale down on each following street (though not this hand). And again, he has virtually no hands worse than top pair that can call anything.

What hands is he raise folding on the turn? What hands is he raise calling?

When you call and jam into a river spade what is he calling and what is he folding?

What hands would he fold if you jam now, but he would call if you make the identical bet on the river when he doesn't improve?

When you add it all up, I think he is folding inferior hands on the river more than now (e.g he has 2p and spades come. He has top pair nfd and misses).

And when he has a straight and/or flush draw he will draw quite cheaply and stack you when he hits and fold when he misses.

So what specifically is gained by raising then blind shoving any Riv?

All I can think of is some pretty unlikely stuff. He would fold t9 now but a 9 comes. He would fold top p nfd now but call when an ace comes.

Am I missing something?