Hero KK 175 Cutoff
Villian 600 Button
1/2 UTG+1 raises 10. 3 callers to me in CO I overcall with kings
Button 3 bets to 55$ folded around to me
Very early in the session I have zero information
I have 168 left I jam
Is this a good push or should I look to maximize value by smooth calling?

You overcalled, not limped.

Overcalling is terrible, 3bet instead.

As played jam is good.

No need to say what villain had.

$ or bb, pick one.

Are you serious?! whats my 3-bet sizing with 3 players in already?
Button would either
A) call and get to a see a flop and potentially hit a ace and I lose
B) fold and I don't make as much money because he doesn't try to take down perceived dead money.
As it were I just made 27 bb's extra and 42 total without even having to see a flop by over calling.

+1

make it aroun fitty and hope someone jams

You mentioned its early in the session and you've no other reads

if u had reason to believe that button, sb or bb would squeeze light, best to say that in the original post or prepare to be flamed

Assuming it's $10, $10, $10 ahead I make it $50 because I have found that the sweet spot between folding everyone out and getting 3 calls.

We raise for value since we have 2nd nuts and putting nearly 1/3 our stack in means we can shove every non-A flop making our post flop decisions mostly trivial.

With these stack sizes a 3bet is a no-brainer. By overcalling you are begging to go 6 ways to the flop which is a horrible decision. What is your 3bet range here? It's hard to justify not having KK in it.

Please don't post on your phone if you can't post your hand better than this. I had to edit a bunch, and it's still missing key info like demographics of the Vs.

This is 100% a 3-bet the first time. Flatting is lighting money on fire. Why would you want to play KK 5 ways with an (approximate, since you don't give stacksizes for any V but BTN) SPR of 16.8-1? There is $50 in there with your call. Raise it up about that much more for fat value.

Your "V could call and spike an ace, or fold and I lose his action" argument is ridiculous unless V always 3-betshis BTN or had raising chips already in his hand, which would be info you need to give us. Similarly, the Ace thing is really bad results-oriented thinking. You had no idea at the time he had an ace.

AP, jam is good. Almost no one has a 3-bet/fold range at live 1/2, and in the unlikely event that he does, you probably weren't getting any more money out of him post-flop unless he hit a better hand than you anyway.

You clearly aren't thinking about poker correctly in several ways, though. Read all ofthe threads in this compendium: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/3...thread-340027/

yea 3 bet pre lol

jam any non A board

simple game

you have like 80 bb bro not much to analyze here

never slow play KK in a multiway pot you miss so much value....Never slow play KK period at a 1/2 table

your sizing is 50ish and you can easily jam any flop with a pot size bet

Dream scenario, depends on player type, generally you should never only overcall with KK, asking someone to take your money , as played if you think villian is likely to have air / Marginal holdings I pretend stall flatall day,maybe even add let's gamble outloud thenflat, if you read him for legit hand just put it in preflop,

No need to give "the speech", just play.

FYP. Otherwise +1

i don't see how overcalling here is good, guess it kinda worked out this time, but like others said you don't want 5 people going to the flop w/KK.

3bet to 50-60, ready to gii. You have 80bb so with 2nd nuts pf it's basically get the monies in.

AP, of course jam

If you flatted because Button is habitually 3-betting light and trying to squeeze pots, then yeah it's okay to *occasionally* flat the initial raise with the intention of shoving when it gets back to you. But you said you had "zero information" so it makes much more sense to 3-bet and thin the field, hopefully shipping on safe flops if it gets there.

However, if your response to someone suggesting 3-betting KK in position is standard as opposed to flatting and potentially going like 8 ways to the flop is "Are you serious?" -- then yes, he is serious. Also you should buy in deeper so that a 3-bet doesn't practically commit you.