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1/2 NL. Do i look weak here? 1/2 NL. Do i look weak here?

10-03-2017 , 02:13 PM
Im BB with about $200 and look down at AQ. Utg opens to 15 and he gets 4 callers by the time it gets to me. I flat call.

Flop is A 6 10 rainbow. I check and utg bets 40. Folds to me and i make the fold. I put him on A 10 or KJ. My question is should i have 3 or 4 bet preflop to like 60? Everybody could have potentially folded.

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10-03-2017 , 02:21 PM
With no player profiles take this with grain of salt...

I 3bet this when conditions are right, which I think this is one of them. Make it $50 PF as it'll look like a super squeeze... you can rep a pretty wide range if you get called; once A hits make the monies.

As played you have to call flop. What kind of flop are you looking for that is better?


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10-03-2017 , 02:29 PM
Yes, thats pretty weak. Your options are

1) fold preflop (which actually isnt bad at all considering the raise came from UTG and you are OOP).
2) 3 bet preflop
3) Call this flop Cbet and go from there.

I have no idea why or how you could narrow him own to AT or KJ (or did you mean AK?). If he can have AT why cant he have AJ?

The best way to know how to play this hand is to watch everyone at all times and to know what UTGs $15 raise means and if it means anything different when hes UTG. Most low stakes players give away huge clues based on their raise sizes. If you cant answer those questions there is nothing wrong with folding preflop. Calling a raise with AQ OOP isnt going to be super profitable long term.
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10-03-2017 , 02:30 PM
What's the standard open in the game? Are most initial raises to $15 or is that a bigger amount than normal? I am folding or 3 betting preflop every time with this hand in the BB with that many players in the pot. Going to make it $75-80 on a 3-bet. I'd also consider jamming preflop, with 75 in the pot already, you'll have decent equity vs everything but AA.
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10-03-2017 , 02:32 PM
This is a great spot to shove pre-flop.

As played I'm calling the flop and not folding most turns.
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10-03-2017 , 02:37 PM
You should make your decisions based on the people you are playing. If AQ is well ahead of UTG's opening range, than you should raise pre. If you think there's a good chance the rest of the table will fold, then raise pre. If UTG is tight and your raise likely won't get through to anyone, then calling is fine. If I just sat down and had this happen, it'd try to get some sort of live tells based on stereotypes.

Anyways, there's nothing wrong with just calling pre vs unknowns. If you've been at the table for a few orbits, you should have some reads to help influence your decision. If you're inattentive at the table, that's likely a leak you should and can easily fix immediately. The flop play needs work though. When a pf raiser makes a continuation bet, their range is much wider than either top 2 or a gutshot. (BTW, you're a 2:1 favorite vs AT & KJ, so you only folded because you're scared money... maybe check your bankroll..?) He could easily have an A you outkick, some sort of Tx, like JT-KT, not just AT... pocket pairs testing the waters, a set, etc... You have to play your AQ vs that whole range. When we just fold here, we're giving up what's usually the best hand. Again, unless there's a read that this guy never bets unless he has the nuts.
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10-03-2017 , 02:44 PM
think MikeStarr summed it up pretty well.

OP you simply cannot be x/f this flop.
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10-03-2017 , 04:26 PM
Yea i figured that. I just sat down basically like 10min before this hand. The utg had a big stack. Had to be around $700+. Thats pretty big in a 1/2 game. And from playing later with him he always had the best hand against his opponent. He didn't play many hands.

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10-03-2017 , 06:22 PM
@quantumsurfer something you said itt has me very curious. What did you mean when you mentioned getting live reads based on stereotypes? I’ve noticed in many hands you post have player descriptions like “young Asian kid”, “late 20s super bro white guy”, “middle aged loose passive Asian”, etc...

Has me intrigued...


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10-03-2017 , 07:12 PM
Well how deep is everyone else? With a raise UTG we assume he is strong here. I probably wouldn't mind 3 betting but I would just get it all in pre. If we 3 bet to like 60 or so like you said and wiff the flop it just sucks since we are OOP. A call is fine though in my opinion.

Can't fold the flop though to one bet.
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10-03-2017 , 07:44 PM
readless i hate it.

in my game this is 65-75 pre-> shove dark before the flop turns, if you were playing vs a huge nit who's playing faceup and only opens AQ+ UTG and only cbets TP+ you wouldve played it fine. given AQ will be pretty easy to play vs the rest of the callers as a value hand and will be easy to muck vs UTG if he shows interest.

without the huge nit read i am def calling OTF. some people willl show up with ******ed stuff like KK here much more often then you think
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10-03-2017 , 08:52 PM
As most have mentioned you can never be folding on this flop. If you are folding to this flop, than what flop aren't you folding to? You need to widen the villians range immensely on this flop and not just consider it to be Top two or the open ended. And even if he did have open ended so what? If it get there than you can fold.
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