Yes.

That’s hilarious. I award you two points. Well done sir.

Yeah, those old nut-peddling curmudgeons are awful to sit with.

Results: Villain shows T7s and hero feels stupid for folding

Wow, you're worried he has you in the worst shape and he shows you the dream hand to be against. I guess should we never rule out the spazz factor in live play(gotta be worth a couple %).

Definitely, at least in the games I play.

First off, to a select few of you responding, theres no need to be a d*ck. We all come here for hand help/feedback.

OP, these types of hands get in my head when I am currently in them. Sometimes we get in our own heads. With your stack vs his, I think this is a call- but I can see the concern.

I think an argument is to be made here that calling is also +Image EV

If people at your table are paying any attention at all, they'll be way less likely to give you action after seeing this nitfold against a tilting V. If this was your last hand for the day and you just didn't feel like giving this guy money, I could maybe understand it (although personally I'd still call), but in this case, people will talk.

And yeah, there's no need to flame the OP. Presumably he's trying to get better and this hand is less of a hand strategy and more of a table strategy question.

Reason OP is getting flamed is because he is being results oriented

Thank you so much, Nozsr. To be clear, there is a 100% chance he had AA or AK. I've seen how he plays AK, and to which he usually folds it to a big raise pre flop, he is THAT nitty.

Not as bad as you'd think, it's literally ONLY him that's the problem. Occasionally there'll be other really nitty players, but no one is even half as nitty as him. I like playing 10 handed, because he doesn't even count as a player, so it's the same thing as 9 handed, and it's impossible to miss him.

And thank you very much to the posters who have come in my defense. To be fair I fully recognize I shouldn't have "fed" the troll, and that there will be people no matter what internet community there is that are asses for no reason besides the fact that they're anonymous.

it's not a fold because nobody's range is only AA. I dont care what you say.

Even if "nobody's range is only AA" - which one could debate -

Even if we give this particular Villain a range of JJ+ not "only AA" ...

... PokerStove without the AK in Villain's range gives us 81.35 to 18.65, 4.36 to 1.

Assuming you mean KK not AK, the bolded is why you're getting flamed. No, it is not a 100% chance. You can't possibly know that, even if you think you do. It's not like the guy cold 4-bet 100 bbs or something. He raised a 12.5bb open to 26.5bbs all in. Especially when someone has been card dead all night as you describe him, his range is something like JJ+, ATs+, AJo+. The fact that you're trying to play savant and say you know for sure it's only KK-AA is the source of your flaming.

And if you really are that savant then there is no need to post a thread because there is nothing to be learned from it.

Since this is LLSNL, the thread has become “I have this mindmeld read (which probably was correct hence I make a thread)” and I should make this hero call/fold/raise/bluff.

If you are a mind reader, and know the relevant math, then high-five yourself and don’t make a thread unless you expect your read to be questioned/ridiculed.

lol... obviously we can sacrifice EV on this hand for the likelihood that it makes the game better.

Or we can sit there and be mind-numbed-ev-seeking-robots and watch all the fish swim away 'cuz the game is miserable.

I'm calling because I simply don't trust my read that he can't ever do this with AK. I've made some awesome hero folds before and then wanted to punch myself in the nuts because the nittiest nit that ever nitted a nit showed a bluff or just a hand that they completely overplayed.

I guess if you're 100% about this and you've done the maths, that's fine just fold and move on. It's not illegal to use maths and logic to come to an unpopular conclusion at the table.

Can he never have 88-99 here? Or even AQ and AJ. I've seen short stack nits shove KJ in spots like this out of frustration, especially if you have been active.

This is a snap call, not really even thinking about it.

I’d be more ashamed of your father then the OP’s father


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Literally just ask villain call or fold and do whatever he says. Unless you want to take your $20 and get a whiskey or something.

I think when you consider rake/drop this is likely more true in 2/5 than 1/2. The point being is sacrificing ev at a blind level that already handcuffs you due rake/drop seems questionable.

I'm fine with gambling. Saying this is a snap call everytime at 1/2 with Hero's range read on V seems like a poor choice. If you discount H's range read then that is different. But we can only go with what OP says.

Here's why I dont like this soulread on villain; it's based around the presumption that he's never lying and always telling us the truth. But he just got done whining about being dealt duece rag 15x in a row. This is clearly a lie. He may have folded the last 15 hands but he's exaggerating the weakness of his cards. He's just being a crotchety old *****, then he proceeds to give this pre-emptive speech about "if I get a duece one more.... IM ALL IN". I mean wtf is that? He's trying to tell us he finally has Aces so he's willing to play? He's telling us he literally got a deuce this time and he's legit spewing? Either story is ridiculous and I dont really care what he has, I'm not folding TT for a minraise that I get to see a showdown with.

Fair enough