The game is a local 1/2 game in which I am a somewhat regular player. However, up until the week prior to this session, I have not played much at all, so there are some new faces.

Relevant history. The Villain is one of the new faces. Last week I saw him run up a 2k+ stack playing a strange style. He seems to be willing to call very wide preflop (saw him limp flat a raise and large 3-bet with K8s OOP 3 ways). V probably views hero as TAG as I have been quite selective in the hands I have played so far with him present and have shown down premiums only.

OTTH

New player (200) opens to 7 UTG+2. Villain (covers all) calls as do two others. Hero (600) makes it 45 from the SB with KsKd. UTG+2 and V call. Others fold.

Flop (150)

8c7h2c Hero bets 65. UTG+2 calls and villain raises, 80 more.

Hero?

You left out the most important part of the read on V - how he plays post flop. There's a huge difference if he plays fit or fold vs fighting for a lot of pots and if he plays draws passively or aggressively.

The flop is super wet - SPR is < 4 - unless we have a read that V plays very tight/passive post flop I think this is just a shove at this point.

Call and play a turn.

Thanks for that - typed post up on lunch at work and was trying to avoid a text wall.

In any case, my post flop read on villain is that he can be sticky with marginal hands and tends to play bigger draws and stronger made hands quite aggressively.

jam, worst case scenario he flopped a set and you still have 10% equity, second worse case he flopped two pair and you still have 25% equity. GII and dont feel bad when you see better, the King is coming!!!

I'd start by betting larger on the flop. It's a fairly wet board and you want the draws to pay.

As played, it's bad to fold for $80 in a pot of $345 without a really strong read, so the question is whether to call or shove. I like a call. Since UTG + 2 is too short to reopen the betting after calling the $80, you're effectively closing the betting with a call on the flop. Given that scenario, why not see what the turn brings before committing the rest of your chips?

I would then probably check-evaluate the turn. If it's a club you can confidently check-fold. If it's a brick, you can see how much villain bets (into what will likely be an empty side pot assuming UTG+2 comes along). But I'd be wary: Until I had seen differently, I would assume that a villain at 1/2 betting into two people in a three-bet pot is basically never bluffing.

too many bad cards that can hit the turn to call here. any 4,5,6,9,T,J make a straight and any club makes a flush. JAM!.

Ok, since there seems to be no further replies, here is the subsequent action.

Hero flats the 80. The original raiser ships for 30 more, both villain and hero call.

Turn (675) 8h

Hero?

Combinatorically, there's less a few less value hands that Villain can have that now beat hero, i.e. less combinations of 87s, 98s, 88 etc, and also, given original raiser went all-in for so little more after a c-bet and a raise, I think it's more likely he has these combos, leaving Villains with more combinations of combo-draws like T9cc, 76cc, maybe AK/AQcc .

I think this is now where previous knowledge of the Villain's post-flop play becomes a more serious factor because it's a disaster for us for the action to go ch/ch and Villain to realise more equity. If he's likely to continue betting this turn then I'd be check/calling, if he's likely to check back and play his equity then maybe leading small is better.

Tough spot!

see now you have to play OOP in a spot where you might be a big dog. still cant check. hand your wallet over to the villain along with all you chips at the table and muck KK before the river comes.

Flop sizing is where the hand went south. Bigger flop bet leads to a no brainer play no matter what villain does.

Spike, can you elaborate?

If we go bigger on the flop, say 110, is it with the intention of just getting it in, or are we thinking about bet/folding?