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1-2 NL, correct play on river? 1-2 NL, correct play on river?

10-04-2010 , 04:20 PM
Harrahs Chester 1-2 NL

Hero is ~ 320 stack size
Villian 1 is ~ 300

Hero raises in MP with 87cc to 10 bucks. Villian calls from the button, UTG & UTG +1 who limped also call.

Flop:

10c - 4d - 5c

UTG Checks, UTG + 1 checks, Hero bets 25, Only Villian on button calls.

Turn:

7s

Hero bets 60, Villian quickly calls.

River:

Js

Final Board: 10c - 4d - 5c - 7s - Js

Hero ?

I botched this hand with my bet sizing imo, but just curious what most of you would do in this situation. The player in the hand was semi tight preflop, but made a lot of calls out of position on drawy flops and would fold to 3 barrells. Our hand can make a call against a missed flush draw, but I was worried that if I bet into this pot, and got raised on I'd have to fold.
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10-04-2010 , 04:41 PM
bet/fold or check/fold
bet is a blocker type of bet maybe around 50-70
or bet as a bluff then shove (about potsize)
of course betting and sizing depends on your read
i'd most likely check/fold unless your image is nitty

i think villains calling range is pretty wide
45, 67, 109, 10j, fd, 4x fd, pp (44-1010)
most likely hero is behind unless villain is really on a fd
so check/folding is probably best unless villain is capable of laying down hands
so check/folding>shoving>blockerbet
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10-04-2010 , 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by BNelley24
The player in the hand was semi tight preflop, but made a lot of calls out of position on drawy flops and would fold to 3 barrells. Our hand can make a call against a missed flush draw, but I was worried that if I bet into this pot, and got raised on I'd have to fold.
Hero shoves the river.
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10-05-2010 , 05:33 AM
Check, if it gets checked through I think theres a good chance that we beat villain's 56, 67 type of hands.

If villain bets, you said villain called on drawy flops then folded the river often. Was this usually when the draw missed or hit? If he was folding when the draw missed then a c/c is probably a good move here since villain wouldn't value bet a lone T if checked to so unless he has JT I think we'd be good.

If villain doesn't seem like hes chasing draws I don't mind shoving the river as a bluff.
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10-05-2010 , 09:53 AM
Had u noticed villain bluffing river when he missed draws before if so I'd c/c here. I can't see what worse hand calls if we bet, also I don't think villain is bluff raisng the river very often but may bluff if checked to.
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10-05-2010 , 12:26 PM
I really don't like a shove here. Can you tell me where you felt your bet sizing was off.

I wouldn't raise ten pre in most games for one thing. But would like to hear your thinking.
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10-05-2010 , 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by jolyroger
I really don't like a shove here. Can you tell me where you felt your bet sizing was off.

I wouldn't raise ten pre in most games for one thing. But would like to hear your thinking.
lemme guess you'd make a 3.5x raise to 7 amirite?
sheesh.

as played i definitely think bet or shove is >> checking with intention to call.
its just if you want to give up or not...

honestly i would probably just c/f.
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10-05-2010 , 04:57 PM
I don't like raising to $10 after two limpers ($12-$14 would be better.) A lot of people would over-limp (I just wouldn't be one of them.)

I don't like the cbet vs. three opponents as that is a lot of players to get through and I wouldn't like it if I were raised.

The turn bet is probably too big as u could bet smaller and get away with it (this is 'live' NL.)

If u shove, what hands that u are currently behind fold? (88, 99, Tx) U need villain to bail about 50% of the time to show profitability. If u really put them on a missed draw then c/calling would be a better option.

c/f, c/c or shove... they are all as equally bad for their own reasons and are largely player dependent. I guess c/f hurts the least. Idk

Last edited by KneedUrDough; 10-05-2010 at 05:06 PM.
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