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05-01-2019 , 03:12 AM
Been playing at table for about 3 hours. I have only played at this casino two times prior till tonight so I don’t have a ton of history with players. Villain is 30s white guy who had about 800 bucks in front of him when I sat down. His stack has dwindled down to 450ish when this hand comes up. Villain has been very active but hasn’t had to show many hands down but earlier he did bet three street with top pair and weak kicker. He has been straddling from utg and on button every chance he gets. I have 225 whenever hand starts. Otth

Villain raises from early position to 15. We are the only caller with kj in the cut off
Flop is j94
Villain leads for 25 and we call. Turn card is the k now villain bets 50
Hero????
Thanks in advance for any and all advice
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05-01-2019 , 07:23 AM
So pot is about $30 OTF, and a little under $80 OTT (depending on rake)

If you call, the pot will be ~$175 with $135 effective back.

Board is a little wet, so I can see an argument for a raise here, but given that you've seen this guy bet three streets with TPWK, I doubt another spade or straight card kills your action very often, and even more rarely your hand.

I'd just call and GII on all rivers. If he has QT or a set here, it's just a cooler. He should have a ton of 1 pair hands (QJ, AJ, AK, KQ, etc.), and some worse 2p and chops.
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05-01-2019 , 11:13 PM
You realize your edge against over-aggressive players by allowing them to bet with an inferior range and calling them down. I don't like a raise here, even with the wetness. I'd just call and evaluate the river. Maybe I find a fold on the Q or something, but probably not.
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05-02-2019 , 12:16 AM
3 bet preflop or fold, i dislike calling here with your stack size. if hes been raising a lot pre then 3 bet and stack off on top pair or better

i dont see much reason to raise the turn. just underrep your hand and let him think AA or AK is the nuts.
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05-02-2019 , 01:49 AM
I agree with 3-betting this guy preflop.

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05-02-2019 , 11:15 AM
I don't mind the call pre -- it all depends on how this guy has been playing. I hate to 3bet fold if he's really active, and I don't like the idea of getting it in pre with this hand unless he's extremely loose.

On turn I can go either way -- call to let him hand himself or shove and hope he calls with worse. I try not to slow play on drawy boards, and the pot is decent, so I probably shove. I'd hate a scare card to come to shut us or him down.
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05-02-2019 , 11:42 AM
If this V has been very active I think it's better to 3b than flat.

AP, V is still uncapped despite his hyperactivity in this session. I can't endorse a turn raise here and I really don't like jamming into an uncapped Villain with two pair.

I prefer just to call him down. I'm concerned he has 99. We're blocking some of the logical combos with which he'd take this line and some are on the board. I agree with Koss that I'd probably call down any river except A,Q, T.
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05-02-2019 , 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Spanishmoon
If this V has been very active I think it's better to 3b than flat.

AP, V is still uncapped despite his hyperactivity in this session. I can't endorse a turn raise here and I really don't like jamming into an uncapped Villain with two pair.

I prefer just to call him down. I'm concerned he has 99. We're blocking some of the logical combos with which he'd take this line and some are on the board. I agree with Koss that I'd probably call down any river except A,Q, T.
Are you calling down a spade?
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05-02-2019 , 12:44 PM
Against an active player, 3 bet your KJ....you will have position on him. Too many times you're going to whiff the flop and fold to his c-bet. Need to take the initiative. V will fold a decent percentage of the time and you take down the pot without seeing a flop.

You will win more money in the long run by calling and letting this V blast off of the river. Raising here could allow V to get off the hook, and he will certainly call you if you're beat. Sure, there a lot of cards that you don't want to see. Not as concerned about the spade draw since it came on the turn, and V bet the flop. V's range is really wide here. For the most part, I am calling if V goes AI on the river. If he has me or draws out on me....oh well.
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05-02-2019 , 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Javanewt
Are you calling down a spade?
If it's the Jack, yes .

Seriously, it's a good question. Against a straightforward player, maybe not. But against this guy, most likely.
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05-02-2019 , 07:38 PM
I decided to three bet the turn to 150. My thought was I wanted to make it expensive for him to draw at me. I put in on Ak here. Unfortunately villain responds quickly with all in and I sigh call my last 26 bucks in chips. Villain flips over q 10 for the turned nuts. River is a meaningless card. Been replaying this hand over in my head for two days now.......
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05-02-2019 , 07:59 PM
Any and all advice appreciated
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05-02-2019 , 08:55 PM
Given his hand, it was all going in eventually anyway, but the turn raise was spew. He'd not calling with much you beat, and it lets him get away from all the hands he would have bet again that don't beat you.

Also, you didn't three-bet the turn. He bet, you raised. Two bets.
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05-02-2019 , 10:06 PM
Sorry. I decided to raise the turn to 150.
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05-02-2019 , 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Fl1870
I decided to three bet the turn to 150. My thought was I wanted to make it expensive for him to draw at me. I put in on Ak here. Unfortunately villain responds quickly with all in and I sigh call my last 26 bucks in chips. Villain flips over q 10 for the turned nuts. River is a meaningless card. Been replaying this hand over in my head for two days now.......
you would have gotten stacked anyway on the river so w/e. you cant read minds or see other players cards so dont worry about coolers.

the problem with the turn raise is that hes folding all worse hands, most of which are drawing very thin. so raising doesnt accomplish anything.
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05-02-2019 , 11:43 PM
i prob jam

if i call im not folding to a spade so i might as well jam
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