History: About half an hour after this hand, to give you an idea of my image and table dynamics, although this one doesn't involve the same villains.

MP is MABG who has a way-too-high VPIP and isn't terribly aggressive, though he has made a few bluffs. Has everyone else in this hand covered.

HJ is late twenties white guy who's the most aggressive player PF at the table (only open-raising, no 3bets) but still limp-calls sometimes. Has a drink in front of him, pretty LAGgy and possibly getting bored. Stack ~$160.

SB is young Asian guy on the short stack who hasn't played many hands. I had one hand against him where he called IP against my 77 and I gave up to a scary board after a small flop bet. Stack ~$80.

Hero is button, mid-thirties WG, TAG-ish image but have taken down a few pots without showdown. Stack ~$220.

Hand:
HJ Mississippi straddles for $5, causing the action to start to his left. CO limps for $5. Hero has A 5 on Button and raises to $20.
SB calls $20, MP and HJ call $20, CO folds.

Flop ($87): 5 7 8
SB checks. MP checks. HJ leads out for $60, leaving him $80ish behind. Hero has ~$200.

Line, please!

"Dealer, I would like to wager all of my betting disks, please."

This is the line I ended up taking, but upon review my friend/backer said that he didn't like it because I'm basically always behind here. I thought I had sufficient equity to GII, but admittedly I probably am well behind the range of donk-bettor, who probably never folds, and am still facing two other hands that could like this board. Are we still fully happy with a shove?

(I think I still am, but I want to confirm that I'm not crazy.)

We probably have 11 outs twice, maybe 9 clean outs at worst.

If we have any fold equity it's a shove IMO.

Do you think we do, though? Donk has just committed nearly half his stack. Knowing that, does it become a fold? (A call seems out of the question to me.)

I don't think a call is out of the question. We're drawing pretty strong here. If we are behind HJ here, which we probably are, we want to entice SB or MP to come along. A call seems good to me. We actually welcome more multiway action, have very little fold equity, and are on the button. There's an off chance we get a free look at the river if we call as well. Call > shove > fold IMO.

Interesting - I hadn't thought of that. So are we calling here planning to never fold and push if we get the chance later?

Edit: Oh, duh, you said we might get a free river. So you're calling here and checking behind the turn if given the option (which we probably never are TBH).

Weird spot, looks like a no-brainer shove in realtime, but introspecting this harder makes me think it’s not such a profitable shove. But who knows.

This is a super standard rip-it-in spot - don't overthink it. You have no FE vs hijack but whatever ... pair + nfd weeeeeee! Tell your backer to take off his skirt and stop being results oriented when you whiff a world draw.

LOL.

Glad to confirm that GII was super-standard here. It sounds like I could have considered a call instead of a shove, but they seem very close in terms of what's likely to happen in the hand as a result.

Rest of hand:
Hero raises all-in.
SB calls all-in.
MP folds.
HJ says it might just be an early night for him and calls all-in.

Board rolls out 5 7 8 4 6 , completing a straight on board and whiffing my draw.

HJ has 8 9 .
SB has 9 10 .

(Well, at least HJ didn't win the whole thing due to ridiculous play from SB.)

Hero sighs and loses what little money is left next hand with AJs against this HJ's QTo, then goes home and posts hands on 2p2. Feels a little better afterward but would still prefer winning. (-:

skirtless backer here...
Firstly, this isn't results-oriented criticism, turns out he got it in with ++sklansky bucks in the actual results. (Except that the loss ended his session which means we probably should have tended toward risk aversion if it was close.)

pair + FD is good HU, but 4 ways? your bottom pair is effectively worthless given this action. How often do you expect to be ahead here? I feel like we're really searching for 9T and lower hearts, the only things we beat. Nice to hope for but vs 3 opponents we're going to have something stronger than that.
"we're not that behind when we're behind" just sounds like an excuse to make (marginally) bad calls. Yeah, that fact means you don't have to be right as often, but you still actually have to be ahead enough more times than you are behind to make it worth it.
it worked out with the 2 callers but damn if you're getting those calls your FE is all but completely gone.

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