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06-07-2013 , 02:40 PM
Playing 1/2 nl, I had been at the table for about an hour and a half, it was a new table when I had sat down. I just won a big hand an orbit before, I have a tighter image at the table.

Hero: AcKs about 500 in chips and on the button

V1: Is UTG+2 with about 275 in chips. Was involved in the big pot I won earlier. Had to rebuy to top off to 200 and then won a decent pot.

V2: Is in the BB with about 235 in chips. Started with 200 in chips and gained the 35 in the only one pot he raised preflop. He may have actually only played 3 hands the whole time we've been at the table. Don't really have much to go on him for this other than he is tight/aggressive.

Preflop: It folds to V1 who raises to 12$. It folds to hero on the button.

Hero calls
sb folds
V2 in BB calls

Flop: Ad8c4s

V2 bets out quickly 25.
V1 thinks for a bit and calls
Hero calls

Turn: Qh

V2 bets out quickly 66
V1 thinks for a long time and calls
Hero?????


What should hero do as played? And how should hero have actually played?

Thanks for the help.
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06-07-2013 , 02:57 PM
i like your call pre flop in position. out of position, since the hand is harder to play, i'm more inclined to re-raise here and take control and try to define my opponent's hand earlier. but in position, i'm fine flatting and going from there.

on the flop, it's very likely one of your opponents has an ace, so i'd raise to get more value right away. if they don't, you're probably not getting much more value anyway. if you get re-raised, it's a no-brainer fold.

as played, i think your hand is just a little too strong to fold. you may very well be up against AQ obviously. but V2 could also be overplaying AJ or AT, and could even have same hand. i think you can flat here and fold to a big river bet because i think it's very unlikely that V2 is betting out three times with just an ace. i don't think you're up against sets because i don't think V2 is betting out with one, and i think V1 would raise the turn with one.

all in all, not a terribly played hand, but i think you could definitely get more value with a raise on the flop versus two opponents. heads up with such a dry board, i'd probably just flat the flop.
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06-07-2013 , 03:39 PM
3-bet preflop to like $35 for value and to isolate. As played I like your flop flat; raising looks very strong and probably overreps your hand. I'm not looking to play for stacks on the flop. I'd fold turn because there aren't many weak aces in the nit's range for flatting out of the blinds (realistically you beat AJ and maybe ATs or something) and either of them could have sets or AQ.
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06-07-2013 , 03:44 PM
Standard play obv is to 3b! this preflop, I guess it can go either way but at 1/2 it seems like deviating from the standard move is a bad idea unless you have significant reason to do so.

IF you are going to flat call preflop with AK though, I think this is a must raise OTF, both for value and to avoid this tough spot you got into OTT.
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06-07-2013 , 03:49 PM
Any hand you beat that will call a flop raise will pay off bets on later streets anyway. The board is dry and the action (a nit firing out and the PFR calling with a player to act behind him) threatening; I'd rather flat and keep their ranges as wide as possible.
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06-07-2013 , 03:56 PM
Raising flop would be god awful without a read that villain will just hurr durr cawl with bare aces
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06-08-2013 , 05:30 PM
I'm never raising this flop with AK. I think that actually leads to losing value rather than gaining any. Sure it makes the end "easier' to play but it's really not that scary of a board.
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06-08-2013 , 08:50 PM
Its not really that big of a turn bet compared to the pot... Only about 2/3 i think i am calling turn and rvr here unless a shove fest ensues.
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