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Old 01-11-2018, 06:10 PM   #1
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1/2 NL AK faced with all in on turn vs two opponents

1/2 NL, 45 minutes into session.

Hero ($250 stack, BTN): TAG image to regs, possibly LAG to unkowns at the table due to the fact that I've been on a heater and have raised pre flop several hands and have taken down a few pots without getting to showdown

Villain 1 ($200 stack, BB): Maniac. Has raised almost every single hand, straddles every single BTN and UTG, has been all in pre flop 3 times already and has lost all 3 times. However, he does seem to understand hold 'em and plays decent post flop.

Villain 2 ($250 stack, CO): LAG player. Plays about 40% of his hands, has won hands shown down with top pair and a really weak kicker (Q3o and K5o stick out). He tends to call loose players down with weak holdings, but tightens up against tighter players.

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MP1 and villain 2 limp. Hero looks up to A K and raises to $13. SB folds and villains 1 and 2 both flat.

Flop ($42): A 10 7.

Villains 1 and 2 check and hero leads out for $30. Villains 1 and 2 both call pretty quickly.

Turn ($132) 4.

Villain 1 immediately goes all in for approx $160 more and announces "you can't both have pocket aces!"

Villain 2 quickly re shoves.

Hero?
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Old 01-11-2018, 06:48 PM   #2
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Re: 1/2 NL AK faced with all in on turn vs two opponents

Gross. Hand is fine pre (very small for my tables, and seems small vs. a maniac and a LAG playing lots of hands) and on the flop. I fold on the turn unless I get some sick read or unless they've done this before. If neither has you beat, more power to them.
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Old 01-11-2018, 06:58 PM   #3
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Re: 1/2 NL AK faced with all in on turn vs two opponents

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Gross. Hand is fine pre (very small for my tables, and seems small vs. a maniac and a LAG playing lots of hands) and on the flop. I fold on the turn unless I get some sick read or unless they've done this before. If neither has you beat, more power to them.
I had never played with villain 1 before and had never seen him act in such fashion before.

Villain 2, however, I can see re shipping it there with most aces or better. I do think that he fully thinks I'm folding due to my tight image.
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Old 01-11-2018, 07:06 PM   #4
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Re: 1/2 NL AK faced with all in on turn vs two opponents

I fold based on V1. (The speech makes me want to fold, too.)
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Old 01-12-2018, 11:14 AM   #5
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Re: 1/2 NL AK faced with all in on turn vs two opponents

Fold with the best part being you might get to see both hands. There just isn't enough chance that Jamie Gold is good here often enough to warrant calling vs 2 AI's.
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Old 01-12-2018, 11:16 AM   #6
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Re: 1/2 NL AK faced with all in on turn vs two opponents

Fold turn.... on to the next hand...
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Old 01-12-2018, 12:19 PM   #7
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Re: 1/2 NL AK faced with all in on turn vs two opponents

Yeah pretty easy fold. More worried about V1. His "speech" is a very strong tell and there just aren't many semi-bluffs / combo-draws out there.
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Old 01-12-2018, 02:01 PM   #8
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Re: 1/2 NL AK faced with all in on turn vs two opponents

Not convinced that the speech is a strength tell here (it's a strong hand statement, which can imply weakness), so if it's just him I might find a call. But after V2 insta-reshoves it's an easy fold. With a rainbow board there just aren't any big draws that could be going crazy here.
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Old 01-12-2018, 03:48 PM   #9
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Old 01-13-2018, 12:04 AM   #10
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Re: 1/2 NL AK faced with all in on turn vs two opponents

V1 is a fish. Next time don't call. That was your one time!
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Old 01-13-2018, 02:14 AM   #11
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Re: 1/2 NL AK faced with all in on turn vs two opponents

Limp/rr pre due to V1. As played snapping to guys with these descriptions.
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Old 01-13-2018, 02:33 AM   #12
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Re: 1/2 NL AK faced with all in on turn vs two opponents

Easy fold. Live reads are so important. Learn from this experience and it will go a long way.
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Old 01-13-2018, 03:44 AM   #13
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Re: 1/2 NL AK faced with all in on turn vs two opponents

Against 2 maniacs I call, against decent to good regs I fold. I've seen so many maniac hands show down to busted flush versus busted straight it's hard for me to go away against them on that flop. A good player with speech play makes me suspect a set of 10s or A10 but not against maniacs.
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